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Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] LM470 Winch

To: Roger (K8RI) on TT <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] LM470 Winch
From: EZ Rhino <EZRhino@fastmovers.biz>
Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 07:00:45 -0600
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I used the K2550 to tilt up my LM470 tower (no antennas on mast) with only a 
2:1 pulley on the tower, and I didn't think it was that big of a deal at all.  
Only took a couple minutes to raise it up.

Chris
KF7P




On May 25, 2016, at 0:11 , Roger (K8RI) on TT wrote:

At $158 it's certainly worth trying. That's a lot less than the dayton.
The nice thing about the Dayton was you could let go of the handle with no 
worry.  The Fulton with the brake?
It's still worth a try.  However, as the tower is vertical, I think I'll use 
the Dayton to tip it down and then try the fulton to raise ir and compare the 
forces. I think thats the safest approach.

As far as exposure a cover is easy to build for a winch like that..

I still need to get the rotator, mast and tilt plate installed as well as the 
control box for extending and lowering the tower when it's vertical.  Because 
of the tower placement, I'll need to extend the tower 8 to 10 feet when tilted 
over.  I think two tilt plates with the C19Xr plus the WARCt might be a bit 
much for this tower

Thanks es 73

Roger (K8RI)


On 5/24/2016 Tuesday 10:53 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
> The Fulton 2550 is rated 2500# and was ok where I used 4 of them. Two stage 
> gearing.  Some bronze bearings.  However, with any brake winch I would 
> protect it from the elements.  The brake pads can deteriorate.
> 
> $158 at 
> http://www.carid.com/fulton/brake-winch-2500-lbs-mpn-k2550-0101.html?gclid=CIji_o6a9MwCFQeRfgodmcMFhw
> 
> If still too hard to turn, get a Milwaukee Hole-Hawg drill to drive it.
> 
> Grant KZ1W
> 
> On 5/24/2016 18:31 PM, Roger (K8RI) on TT wrote:
>> I think I posted something similar last fall, or Summer, but didn't have the 
>> Dayton rebuilt.  I was a bit surprised to find that instead of bronze 
>> bushings, they are simple steel bushings.
>> 
>> I've rebuilt the Dayton winch and it works well, but I don't think it's 
>> quite up to the task of raising and lowering the tower initially and it 
>> takes too much physical effort to turn the crank even with a snatch block 
>> attached to the tower providing a 2:1 reduction.
>> 
>> Whats a good winch to replace it that is considerably easier to turn?  I can 
>> purchase commercial, 2 stage worm gear reducers, but in that range they are 
>> expensive.
>> 
>> Either manual, or 120VAC. No battery powered and no huge, heavy winches, but 
>> it needs to lift (or pull) about a ton and remain out in the weather..  That 
>> eliminates about everything I could find.
>> 
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