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Re: [TowerTalk] Change in Frequency As Antenna Height Rises Above Ground

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Change in Frequency As Antenna Height Rises Above Ground
From: Dan Maguire via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Dan Maguire <djm2150@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 03:42:47 +0000 (UTC)
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K9RX (StellarCAT) wrote:
>>> There's no "probably" to it! It is lowest (in frequency) closet to the 
>>> ground. [snip] Finally on 40 meters I saw as much as a 300Khz change from 
>>> 32" (on saw horses) to 37' on just one element of the yagi... I believe it 
>>> was about 150 Khz from 8' to 37'. And think there might be an additional 20 
>>> Khz or so shift from here on up to probably 50' or so.

For a 40m dipole model (length 66 ft, diameter 1 inch, aluminum, 29 segments, 
over "Average" ground) the chart below shows (red trace) the frequency of 
minimum SWR(50) and (blue trace) the frequency of resonance (jX=0 at feedpoint) 
at heights from 2.5 ft (30") to 100 ft.

http://s33.postimg.org/vjtgi392n/resonate3.png

While it is true that the frequency (either one, take your pick) is roughly 300 
KHz higher at 37 ft vs 30", and is higher still up to about 60 ft, from there 
to about 100 ft the frequency *decreases* as the height is increased.  It also 
*decreases* from about 10 ft to about 25 ft.  So it seems that no blanket 
statement can be made.  Whether the frequency increases as the height increases 
depends on where you start looking at things, at least for this simple model, 
which may or may not be an accurate representation of Gary's one element from a 
Yagi.

Dan, AC6LA
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