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Re: [TowerTalk] Stainless Steel and Other Hard To Find Fasteners

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Stainless Steel and Other Hard To Find Fasteners
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:02:14 -0400
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I once lived in a similar location, with a 60 mile drive to work. (I'm not a morning person either). My drive took me near a town...small city that had suppliers for three or four large companies and many smaller ones with some of those specialty machine shops. I gained a lot of contacts through work. Metal suppliers 25 mile away will deliver to my door.

Parts procurement for ham projects can be difficult in most places. First, you need to locate them and then find the ones that will deal with the individual. We moved down here in 84 which drastically shortened my drive. My wife ended up with about the same distance she had before. We are now retired and live in a small, rural subdivision, but fortunately no HOAs. Unfortunately the large trucks can't make it down our street so larger, longer, heavy deliveries have to be via smaller trucks. We should have chosen a better location, but with an acre lot I at least have room for modest antennas.

No way would I drive 30 miles for parts, EXCEPT when I need them now!. Big stuff? Probably. Ace and Tru-Valu are nearby which I do use. But for most nuts, bolts, and screws, I go to the suppliers and purchase them by the box. My fasteners shelving is better equipped than the local hardware stores. I can get boxes of many sizes for what 4 or 6 bolts cost me at the "Big Box" and hardware stores. Many of the local stores do supply through the Internet.

It also helps that we are close to, or in, hunting, fishing, and water sports areas.

Still, it's getting much more difficult to support the local, brick and mortar stores.

There are no local, or even not so local, Ham stores. The closest is well over a 100 miles.

73

Roger (K8RI)

On 7/9/2016 Saturday 5:30 PM, Don W7WLL wrote:
True Roger, BUT . . .

My location (and I suspect this is true for many on this reflector) isn't where a wide range suppliers is available. One just doesn't run to the local store for anything, it is a trip to a large town or city taking a whole day or more!!!!! There is an Ace Hardware up in a small coast town 6 miles north, but while having some SS and other hardware it is very limited in scope, mostly really common stuff. The next nearest hardware is a Tru-Valu south some 30 miles in another small coastal town, same limited selection but a little better. Some 30 miles to the north in Newport is a Fastenal, again little in stock, most has to be ordered out of a warehouse someplace so it is a wait. Next stop are larger towns in the Willamette Valley like Albany, Corvallis and Eugene (some 2 hours plus driving time) or larger ones like Salem and Portland (3 hours driving time). While there are some bigger fastener shops most again have a relatively limited 'in stock' inventory and one has to rely a lot on their ordering for you, again wait. Lots of driving and lots of fuel cost let alone time and wear and tear, and I still have to bear shipping and handling costs (the latter 'handling' bugs me as so many I;ve run across are outrageous).

Where prices are similar, landed at my place, I try to spread my purchases around. But I sure do the comparisons, not just unit cost but shipping/handling cost, return policies, responsiveness and other attributes.

For all it's problems, those company's who have learned how to sell via the internet and do it with integrity, have capitalized and done well in what today is a very competitive cost driven market. Who ever I purchase from, if the service is good, I am willing to pay a little more to get what I need. And, I make sure that those I buy from know whether I am satisfied or not. If not, I tell them why vs grumble just to the XYL about it.

The US small business area from what I've seen is changing quickly in terms of the market dynamics but most who have adopted quickly to a huge internet marketplace seem to be thriving and growing more there than in across the counter sales. Good to see people like DXE, Metalwerks and many other small businesses who just feed the amateur radio operator heeding to and filling in market needs. More important is most I;ve dealt with appear to be listening to user inputs. I trust all will do well and that I will be able to continue keeping my meager station running whilst being able to shop from home at costs at least no more than what I'd have to bear if I lived in a big metropolis where there is a lot of competition and the product selection is extensive.

Support your local business, but don't shoot yourself in the foot doing it. I chose to live here so know I have to live with the cons.

IMHO,

Don W7WLL


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