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Re: [TowerTalk] Coax Losses on 160 and 75?

To: Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Coax Losses on 160 and 75?
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 23:03:14 -0700
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On 8/5/2016 10:00 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:

##  I like the wattmeter method, then I know it’s the ....real deal.  Just 
install a 50 ohm dummy load on the
far end..just after the  2nd wattmeter.   Then you can test from 160- UHF.   
Then you get real results.

No, this isn't the real deal.  A 2 port vector network analyzer
with full 2 port calibration is the real deal.  The wattmeter
approach has many error effects that are difficult to account
for.  The fact that the meters read identical when cascaded
does not mean the subsequent measurement is perfect.
The dummy load may have a mismatch.  The characteristic
impedance of the line is not exactly 50 ohms and is actually
complex in general.  Etc.

For additional reading on the pitfalls of wattmeters, see:

https://www.fars.k6ya.org/docs/K6OIK-A_Transmission_Line_Power_Paradox_and_Its_Resolution.pdf

Rick N6RK


This assumes the pair of wattmeters are calibrated for the  freqS  to be 
tested.   They dont even have to be
calibrated, they just have to read identical...when both are wired nose to 
tail, in series, at the xcvr /amp.
I wire two in series 1st.....then test to ss how close they are  across  XXX 
bands /freqs.    Ok, then remove one of em
and install at far end of coax.

Jim   VE7RF
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