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From: Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 13:15:03 -0500
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My town (in Vermont) has 40 feet as the local hight restriction and accept an 
other 12 feet "sticking up" above present structure. The zoning board was not 
against me putting up an 85 foot tower but required a hearing as I needed a 
variance. My problem was the neighbor that didn't want "the horizon of nature 
be disturbed by technology. Due to an administrative mess-up the hearing got 
delayed for a year. When I finally got my permit it was autumn and I had to 
wait for the spring to get my tower up. I missed the peak of the solar spot 
cycle. Well, more will come.

ARRL was able get me in touch with an attorney that help me for free. He was 
very helpful. There are also several court cases available on line. The 
favorite is a case from Florida where the judge ordered the town to pay for the 
ham's legal fee (~$18.000). I had that case with a few other in my application 
to "soften up" the zoning board. It is always good to indicate that they may up 
getting additional expenses if they decide to "fight". Most towns don't like 
extra expenses.

A fun note: My neighbor tried to stop the permit by claiming I was going to use 
it "to eavesdrop on telephone conversations" as my son had demonstrated for 
them how he was able to listen to a phone conversation "from northern Vermont" 
which is about 130 miles from our house located on the southern tip of Vermont. 
They also highlighted the possibility of "radioactive radiation" from the 
tower. Don't you love these people?

Hans - N2JFS


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net>
To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 1:31 am
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Advice on tower restrictions possible new install


K6OK stated -

"Wouldn't you want the opposite? If a county has a blanket height

restriction on all types of structures, and that height limit is

lower than my planned towers, then I would avoid that county

unless it had a ham tower exemption. If a county has cell phone

tower regulations (which are common), I would avoid that county

unless they exempt ham towers from those rules.



But if you can't change counties, having these restrictions is not

necessarily a deal-killer. You might have to apply for a use permit

or a variance, requiring more time, money and anguish.

Unfortunately there's no guarantee they will approve your application."



I am not a lawyer certainly. K1VR and the ARRL support services are a good
way to get proper advice. That

Being said, you never want to ask for a "variance" against a law that
doesn't apply to you. You want to state

That your request is not restricted by the current regulations. Its NOT a
commercial permit for a tower, its

A personal use auxiliary structure. So any clerk telling you otherwise
should not prevent you from doing what you

Want to do.



Its also a protected use under Federal Pre-emption - PRB-1. The fact that
the state or county/city/town has not

Enacted language in their law to accommodate the pre-emption, should not
dissuade you from exercising your federally granted rights.



I think the question is to decide what the response is after sizing up the
situation. Has the state enacted PRB1 language? If so, what does it say
about your plans and what are you up against. Do the local regulations
mention the case of personal antenna supports or not.



Certain local groups are up for a fight and certain ones don't want a legal
battle especially if no neighbor is complaining. Here in rural Vermont -
they were "thankful" for the guidance and glad to hear they weren't going to
be 200 ft tall.



Note that none of the above deals with HOAs which is a horse of a different
color.



Ed N1UR





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