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Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Zoning Summerville SC
From: Bud Kozloff <W1NSK@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 21:11:14 +0000
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Anyone have experience w/zoning & building issues specifically  in Summerville 
and Mt. Pleasant , SC  or Charleston SC and its environs? Advice?


Bud

W1NSK


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Today's Topics:

   1. Back to TOWERTALK! (k7lxc@aol.com)
   2. Digging The Hole (Joe Partlow)
   3. Weather station on tower (Steve K7AWB)
   4. Re: Digging The Hole (David Gilbert)
   5. 160 vertical advice (cqtestk4xs@aol.com)
   6. Re: 160 vertical advice (Wes Stewart)
   7. Re: Digging The Hole (jimlux)
   8. Re: Digging The Hole (Wes Stewart)
   9. Re: Digging The Hole (Patrick Greenlee)
  10. Re: Weather station on tower (Kim Elmore)
  11. Re: Digging The Hole (Richard Solomon)
  12. Re: Weather station on tower (Patrick Greenlee)
  13. Re: Digging The Hole (jimlux)
  14. Re: Weather station on tower (Bill Parry)
  15. Re: Digging The Hole (W0MU Mike Fatchett)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 13:16:56 -0500
From: k7lxc@aol.com
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Back to TOWERTALK!
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? ? Let's get back on track with TOWER and ANTENNA construction topics. Please 
no more real estate agent comments, etc. Tnx!

?
Cheers,
Steve ? ? ?K7LXC
TT ADMIN
?
PS - The occasional BB King comment is not discouraged - hi.?

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 11:04:44 -0800
From: Joe Partlow <joe.w6jwp@gmail.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Digging The Hole
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So I'm in the process of digging the hole for my tower foundation. I've dug
most of it out with a mini-excavator but now I have to climb down inside to
finish up the corners and such. the hole will be 4' X 4' x 6' deep. Should
I be worried about cave-ins?

--
- 73 -
- Joe W6JWP


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 17:34:28 -0800
From: Steve K7AWB <k7awbgoog@gmail.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Weather station on tower
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In finishing my rohn 45 tower with buried feedlines, control cables, etc. and a 
couple of hf  antennas  into a Ratpack switch, I might add a weather station to 
let me know direction and magnitude of wind there, etc.

For any of you who use a radio tower for the side mounting of an outdoor Wx 
station, do you:

Have any interference to the ham station from the Wx station?

Likewise, any interference from the station amplifiers to the Wx station?  I 
use an alpha 9500 amp into a 6-el 20 meter  yagi at the top at 90 feet.

Lightning damage to station sensors that seem to mounted in plastic molded 
enclosures?

The Wx stations I am looking at are in the $$ range of 150 to 250.

Steve k7awb

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 00:25:40 -0700
From: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging The Hole
Message-ID: <4ecbd91a-b88a-1aab-b7ba-736e8d59a9ff@cis-broadband.com>
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Yes, of course.

On 2/9/2018 12:04 PM, Joe Partlow wrote:
> So I'm in the process of digging the hole for my tower foundation. I've dug
> most of it out with a mini-excavator but now I have to climb down inside to
> finish up the corners and such. the hole will be 4' X 4' x 6' deep. Should
> I be worried about cave-ins?
>



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 04:28:08 -0500
From: cqtestk4xs@aol.com
To: TOWERTALK@contesting.com
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] 160 vertical advice
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First, I want to say thank you to all who responded to my post about a top 
loaded vertical for 160.

The antenna I wound up with was quite different than the one I proposed.  
Basically, it is about 132 feet of wire.  The top  "bent" part (65 feet) is 
carried by a  piece of thin Phillystran stretched out from the 84 foot level on 
my tower out to around 350 feet to a "borrowed" neighbors property.  Luckily 
the property also rises in slope about 25 feet, giving me a little extra 
height.  The remaining 67 feet is dropped straight down to the ground.   I 
currently have around 40 radials laying on the ground, not buried yet. Another 
20 or so to come.  Some of the radials from the 160 vertical overlap the ones 
from my 4 square for 80


The antenna is directly fed with 50 ohm cable and the SWR   is 1:1 at 1825 and 
is less than 1.3:1 across 1800-1900 kHz.  It looks into the tower in the 
direction of North America.

I gave the antenna its first workout tonight and it is a winner.  Worked all 
over the US and had about ten EU call in.  Copy was tough on this end as QRN 
was quite bad on the shared apex rx antenna.

Thanks  again to all who helped me find a solution to my 160 antenna.

Bill KH7XS/K4XS


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:50:58 -0700
From: Wes Stewart <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 160 vertical advice
Message-ID: <84ed6766-6713-77d1-34a5-2f92a6b85aff@triconet.org>
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Sounds like too much loss in that system.? A case where a good SWR isn't good 
news.

Is the SAL effective at all?

Wes? N7WS


On 2/10/2018 2:28 AM, Bill via TowerTalk wrote:
> First, I want to say thank you to all who responded to my post about a top 
> loaded vertical for 160.
>
> The antenna I wound up with was quite different than the one I proposed.  
> Basically, it is about 132 feet of wire.  The top  "bent" part (65 feet) is 
> carried by a  piece of thin Phillystran stretched out from the 84 foot level 
> on my tower out to around 350 feet to a "borrowed" neighbors property.  
> Luckily the property also rises in slope about 25 feet, giving me a little 
> extra height.  The remaining 67 feet is dropped straight down to the ground.  
>  I currently have around 40 radials laying on the ground, not buried yet. 
> Another 20 or so to come.  Some of the radials from the 160 vertical overlap 
> the ones from my 4 square for 80
>
>
> The antenna is directly fed with 50 ohm cable and the SWR   is 1:1 at 1825 
> and is less than 1.3:1 across 1800-1900 kHz.  It looks into the tower in the 
> direction of North America.
>
> I gave the antenna its first workout tonight and it is a winner.  Worked all 
> over the US and had about ten EU call in.  Copy was tough on this end as QRN 
> was quite bad on the shared apex rx antenna.
>
> Thanks  again to all who helped me find a solution to my 160 antenna.
>
> Bill KH7XS/K4XS



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 05:52:16 -0800
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging The Hole
Message-ID: <2b635b82-67f6-6f2d-758b-2a38ce9ce442@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 2/9/18 11:04 AM, Joe Partlow wrote:
> So I'm in the process of digging the hole for my tower foundation. I've dug
> most of it out with a mini-excavator but now I have to climb down inside to
> finish up the corners and such. the hole will be 4' X 4' x 6' deep. Should
> I be worried about cave-ins?
>

It depends. What's your soil like?
if it collapses, how deep will you be buried?

If you're buried waist deep, you just have to wait til someone comes to
dig you out (or you can dig yourself out with your hands).

If you're buried with your chest under dirt (i.e. the collapse knocked
you over, or there's a big pile of dirt next to the hole, so the hole
will be filled back up), you will likely die before someone can dig you
out, even if they're standing there, shovel in hand, ready to start digging.

I'll readily admit that when I was younger and more ignorant, I climbed
down into plenty of holes. I won't do it now.


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:52:53 -0700
From: Wes Stewart <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging The Hole
Message-ID: <12823b89-d7df-5456-1cf1-3a14208269d0@triconet.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Gives me the creeps just thinking about it.

On 2/9/2018 12:04 PM, Joe Partlow wrote:
> So I'm in the process of digging the hole for my tower foundation. I've dug
> most of it out with a mini-excavator but now I have to climb down inside to
> finish up the corners and such. the hole will be 4' X 4' x 6' deep. Should
> I be worried about cave-ins?
>



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 08:19:32 -0600
From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging The Hole
Message-ID: <220f4a58-af6f-2028-0025-672fbb84adde@windstream.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Depending on your soil type and other extant conditions you might easily
be killed.? Just because you haven't had a cave-in digging to your
current stage of progress is not a reliable indicator of your safety as
you proceed. As far as the corners are concerned, they can be squared
off with a manual post hole digger AKA "Idiot Sticks" and or shovel with
you standing on a ladder placed in the hole. A cave-in under these
circumstances would be an inconvenience not a prelude to your funeral.

Alternatively, shore up the hole leaving the corners uncovered. Then you
can access the corners and the bottom of the hole but not be buried by a
cave-in. Don't make dying to get a tower installed a literal fact.

Be safe.

Patrick??????? NJ5G


On 2/10/2018 7:52 AM, jimlux wrote:
> On 2/9/18 11:04 AM, Joe Partlow wrote:
>> So I'm in the process of digging the hole for my tower foundation.
>> I've dug
>> most of it out with a mini-excavator but now I have to climb down
>> inside to
>> finish up the corners and such. the hole will be 4' X 4' x 6' deep.
>> Should
>> I be worried about cave-ins?
>>
>
> It depends. What's your soil like?
> if it collapses, how deep will you be buried?
>
> If you're buried waist deep, you just have to wait til someone comes
> to dig you out (or you can dig yourself out with your hands).
>
> If you're buried with your chest under dirt (i.e. the collapse knocked
> you over, or there's a big pile of dirt next to the hole, so the hole
> will be filled back up), you will likely die before someone can dig
> you out, even if they're standing there, shovel in hand, ready to
> start digging.
>
> I'll readily admit that when I was younger and more ignorant, I
> climbed down into plenty of holes. I won't do it now.
> _______________________________________________
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 08:29:47 -0600
From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
To: Steve K7AWB <k7awbgoog@gmail.com>
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weather station on tower
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I use a Davis Vantage Vue. It?s mounted on the side of my tower and uses spread 
spectrum RF comms between the instrument pod and the display station.

I shunt feed the tower on 160 m at 1500 W. I?ve never gotten into it and have 
never heard a peep from it. The only problem I?ve had is that after 6 y or so, 
the anemometer bearings are failing. Also, you will need to access the 
instrument pod to occasionally replace a lithium battery that powers it during 
extended darkness or very cloudy days ? it otherwise uses a solar cell and 
super capacitor for power.

Kim N5OP

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the 
music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

> On Feb 9, 2018, at 19:34, Steve K7AWB <k7awbgoog@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In finishing my rohn 45 tower with buried feedlines, control cables, etc. and 
> a couple of hf  antennas  into a Ratpack switch, I might add a weather 
> station to let me know direction and magnitude of wind there, etc.
>
> For any of you who use a radio tower for the side mounting of an outdoor Wx 
> station, do you:
>
> Have any interference to the ham station from the Wx station?
>
> Likewise, any interference from the station amplifiers to the Wx station?  I 
> use an alpha 9500 amp into a 6-el 20 meter  yagi at the top at 90 feet.
>
> Lightning damage to station sensors that seem to mounted in plastic molded 
> enclosures?
>
> The Wx stations I am looking at are in the $$ range of 150 to 250.
>
> Steve k7awb
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 07:33:29 -0700
From: Richard Solomon <dickw1ksz@gmail.com>
To: towertalk <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging The Hole
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Better yet, just fill the hole with
concrete. It's cheaper than a
funeral.

Square up the part showing above
ground, no one will see whats
below it.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
wrote:

> Depending on your soil type and other extant conditions you might easily
> be killed.  Just because you haven't had a cave-in digging to your current
> stage of progress is not a reliable indicator of your safety as you
> proceed. As far as the corners are concerned, they can be squared off with
> a manual post hole digger AKA "Idiot Sticks" and or shovel with you
> standing on a ladder placed in the hole. A cave-in under these
> circumstances would be an inconvenience not a prelude to your funeral.
>
> Alternatively, shore up the hole leaving the corners uncovered. Then you
> can access the corners and the bottom of the hole but not be buried by a
> cave-in. Don't make dying to get a tower installed a literal fact.
>
> Be safe.
>
> Patrick        NJ5G
>
>
> On 2/10/2018 7:52 AM, jimlux wrote:
>
>> On 2/9/18 11:04 AM, Joe Partlow wrote:
>>
>>> So I'm in the process of digging the hole for my tower foundation. I've
>>> dug
>>> most of it out with a mini-excavator but now I have to climb down inside
>>> to
>>> finish up the corners and such. the hole will be 4' X 4' x 6' deep.
>>> Should
>>> I be worried about cave-ins?
>>>
>>>
>> It depends. What's your soil like?
>> if it collapses, how deep will you be buried?
>>
>> If you're buried waist deep, you just have to wait til someone comes to
>> dig you out (or you can dig yourself out with your hands).
>>
>> If you're buried with your chest under dirt (i.e. the collapse knocked
>> you over, or there's a big pile of dirt next to the hole, so the hole will
>> be filled back up), you will likely die before someone can dig you out,
>> even if they're standing there, shovel in hand, ready to start digging.
>>
>> I'll readily admit that when I was younger and more ignorant, I climbed
>> down into plenty of holes. I won't do it now.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 08:37:55 -0600
From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weather station on tower
Message-ID: <2723116a-019d-556c-04f1-57c4908fe5ba@windstream.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

My weather station is RF linked to a couple indoor displays.? So far
never noticed any problem with WX station causing interference or
suffering from interference with a relatively nearby kilowatt energized
antenna? covering 6, 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 40, 80, and 160 meters.

I suppose if the WX station were really really close to an antenna there
would be significant opportunity for problems. There is a standard
mounting height for a "by the book" installation if you want to
duplicate the weather service.

Good info for a typical residential installation is available lots of
places... here is one.

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wunderground.com%2Fweatherstation%2Finstallationguide.asp&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3e1eabcd2b52405ec53308d570a7c5ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636538788280068718&sdata=PZ%2BIpzZWsqugPQsWY6K%2F66gpjkwmI43oae5LHea7UGo%3D&reserved=0

Patrick??????? NJ5G


On 2/9/2018 7:34 PM, Steve K7AWB wrote:
> In finishing my rohn 45 tower with buried feedlines, control cables, etc. and 
> a couple of hf  antennas  into a Ratpack switch, I might add a weather 
> station to let me know direction and magnitude of wind there, etc.
>
> For any of you who use a radio tower for the side mounting of an outdoor Wx 
> station, do you:
>
> Have any interference to the ham station from the Wx station?
>
> Likewise, any interference from the station amplifiers to the Wx station?  I 
> use an alpha 9500 amp into a 6-el 20 meter  yagi at the top at 90 feet.
>
> Lightning damage to station sensors that seem to mounted in plastic molded 
> enclosures?
>
> The Wx stations I am looking at are in the $$ range of 150 to 250.
>
> Steve k7awb
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:51:42 -0800
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging The Hole
Message-ID: <7f65e8b4-f87c-f7cd-e66e-f50c8d05aa45@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 2/10/18 6:33 AM, Richard Solomon wrote:
> Better yet, just fill the hole with
> concrete. It's cheaper than a
> funeral.
>
> Square up the part showing above
> ground, no one will see whats
> below it.

Really.. Dick has got the right idea here.. if the corner is a bit
rounded at the bottom, it's not like the cube o'concrete will fail to be
a "big lump o' mass".
Use your mini excavator to dig a few inches deeper in the middle if
you're worried about having leftover concrete from the truck.



>> On 2/10/2018 7:52 AM, jimlux wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/9/18 11:04 AM, Joe Partlow wrote:
>>>
>>>> So I'm in the process of digging the hole for my tower foundation. I've
>>>> dug
>>>> most of it out with a mini-excavator but now I have to climb down inside
>>>> to
>>>> finish up the corners and such. the hole will be 4' X 4' x 6' deep.
>>>> Should
>>>> I be worried about cave-ins?
>>>>


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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:12:50 -0600
From: "Bill Parry" <bparry@rgv.rr.com>
To: "'Steve K7AWB'" <k7awbgoog@gmail.com>,      <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weather station on tower
Message-ID: <000d01d3a281$9fb50d40$df1f27c0$@rgv.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

Steve,

I have a LaCrosse wireless weather station and the gizmo that measures the
wind is mounted at about 40 feet up on the tower, I have no interference of
any kind.  I use an Alpha 87A and the tower has a C3E tribander, shorty
forty at 135 feet, an inverted vee at 100 feet and an 80 meter sloper. As of
about 6 months ago the weather station quit working...not sure why but
pretty sure it had nothing to do with the power or antennas.

Good luck

Bill W5VX

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve
K7AWB
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 7:34 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Weather station on tower

In finishing my rohn 45 tower with buried feedlines, control cables, etc.
and a couple of hf  antennas  into a Ratpack switch, I might add a weather
station to let me know direction and magnitude of wind there, etc.

For any of you who use a radio tower for the side mounting of an outdoor Wx
station, do you:

Have any interference to the ham station from the Wx station?

Likewise, any interference from the station amplifiers to the Wx station?  I
use an alpha 9500 amp into a 6-el 20 meter  yagi at the top at 90 feet.

Lightning damage to station sensors that seem to mounted in plastic molded
enclosures?

The Wx stations I am looking at are in the $$ range of 150 to 250.

Steve k7awb
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:08:44 -0700
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging The Hole
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The hole is probably a bit bigger than what you wanted to dig unless you
were a much better operator than most.

Yes you should be worried.? You could shore up the sides with plywood
and posts but that would be a lot of work for nothing.

W0MU




On 2/10/2018 7:51 AM, jimlux wrote:
> On 2/10/18 6:33 AM, Richard Solomon wrote:
>> Better yet, just fill the hole with
>> concrete. It's cheaper than a
>> funeral.
>>
>> Square up the part showing above
>> ground, no one will see whats
>> below it.
>
> Really.. Dick has got the right idea here.. if the corner is a bit
> rounded at the bottom, it's not like the cube o'concrete will fail to
> be a "big lump o' mass".
> Use your mini excavator to dig a few inches deeper in the middle if
> you're worried about having leftover concrete from the truck.
>
>
>
>>> On 2/10/2018 7:52 AM, jimlux wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/9/18 11:04 AM, Joe Partlow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So I'm in the process of digging the hole for my tower foundation.
>>>>> I've
>>>>> dug
>>>>> most of it out with a mini-excavator but now I have to climb down
>>>>> inside
>>>>> to
>>>>> finish up the corners and such. the hole will be 4' X 4' x 6' deep.
>>>>> Should
>>>>> I be worried about cave-ins?
>>>>>
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