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Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station interconnection

To: "'Gedas'" <w8bya@mchsi.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station interconnection
From: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:00:03 -0400
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Tnx Gedas for the info on utube.
N2TK, Tony

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From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gedas
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:04 PM
To: N2TK, Tony <tony.kaz@verizon.net>; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station interconnection

Great choice Tony, you won't regret it. Just do not skimp on the quality of the 
connectors. The termination of the shields to the shell is critical as to how 
well the overall cable provides S.E. & immunity and isolation, etc. If you have 
a minute check out a video I made on youtube about cheap imported crimp on 
connectors. Just do a search on my call. I learned my lesson and only buy 
connectors from people I trust. 73 es GL

Gedas, W8BYA

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On 3/17/2018 8:32 AM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
> Tnx everyone for all the input on coax for jumpers. Some great ideas and 
> info. I bought 100’ of Harbour Industries RG400. I didn’t want to take a 
> chance on imported cable. Also bought crimp PL-259’s. I should be set.
>
> 73,
>
> N2TK, Tony
>
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> From: N2TK, Tony [mailto:tony.kaz@verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:47 PM
> To: 'Gedas' <w8bya@mchsi.com>; 'towertalk@contesting.com' 
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station 
> interconnection
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> Tnx Gedas. Yeah, want to make sure it is the good stuff I get.
>
> N2TK, Tony
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> From: Gedas [mailto:w8bya@mchsi.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:29 PM
> To: N2TK, Tony <tony.kaz@verizon.net <mailto:tony.kaz@verizon.net> >; 
> towertalk@contesting.com <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station 
> interconnection
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> Hi Tony. Harbour Industries is a HUGE leader in the world of high-temp, 
> quality Teflon cables and wires etc. They are the ones who make my RG-142. I 
> personally would stay away from buying cables and assemblies from Asia unless 
> you knew exactly who you were dealing with and had some assurance of the 
> quality cables you would be getting from them. Several people here have 
> suggested a couple real good USA sources and I would look into them if I were 
> you. I just make my own here but that is because I have plenty of cable 
> around.
>
> Gedas, W8BYA
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> Gallery at http://w8bya.com
> Light travels faster than sound....
> This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
>
> On 3/16/2018 2:20 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
>
> Gedas,
> Tnx for the info.
> Looking on eBay I see several listings for RG400 from China. I had 
> heard Harbour Industries in VT makes a high quality cable. Not sure 
> about the stiff from China., N2TK, Tony
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gedas
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:13 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Skinny QRO coax jumpers for station 
> interconnection
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> RG-303 is a good cable but not as good as RG-400 or RG-142 because it uses 
> only a single shield.  Also, I would still use RG-400 over RG-213 because it 
> meets his desire for a small O.D. cable and because he is using it for 
> switching filters etc where the higher shielding effectiveness of the RG-400 
> is desirable and will offer better immunity to cross talk etc.
>   
> Plus, with a Teflon based coax you never have to worry about the center 
> conductor migrating from center, even under QRO and extreme heat and tight 
> bends.  I was biased when I posted using RG-142 because I was lucky enough to 
> find a 1000' roll of it and have been using it for jumpers for years & years. 
> But RG-400 is more flexible and of the same high quality as 142.
>   
> It used to be that RG-213 meant an upgraded quality version of a cable like 
> RG-8 (solid dielectric & VF = 0.66) but with two copper braids vs.
> one. RG-214 was the same as RG-213 but used a silver coated copper center 
> conductor and dual silver coated copper braids for even higher performance 
> and better S.E.  For MIL applications we used lots of RG-223, RG-142, RG-400, 
> RG-214, and of course tons of semi-rigid. I was very, very lucky when I was 
> able to purchase five left-over 1000' rolls of new RG-214 for, you don't want 
> to know, and have enjoyed giving most of it away to friends & family.
>   
> Gedas, W8BYA
>   
> Gallery at http://w8bya.com
> Light travels faster than sound....
> This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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> On 3/16/2018 1:33 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
>
> I see no mention of RG 303 and wonder if that's been discontinued.
>   
> for jumpers I'd use 213.  If you need a tighter bend radius I'd 
> re-arrange or re-locate the connection points instead of using skinny 
> silver coax.
>   
> Rob
> K5UJ
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