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Re: [TowerTalk] 39 +j0 ohms?

To: <k3lr@k3lr.com>, "'Wes N7WS'" <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>, <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 39 +j0 ohms?
From: "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 16:47:44 -0500
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I'm preparing for the 2 ELE DXE array.....and now, with just about 3 ft of coax, at the target freq of 7.125 mc, #1 vert measures Z=41.1, R=40.8 and X=.93 and #2 measures Z=40.8, R=40.6 and X = 3.2. I then attached the 75 ohm 1/4 wave stubs, and the Tee adapter, and measure right at the Tee and got Z=51.2, R=48.3 and X=14.4...the instructions say it should read close to 46 ohms +j 12 ohms.....so am I close? I'm stuck on what the j+12 ohms means in relation to the other readings....

-----Original Message----- From: Tim Duffy
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 4:11 PM
To: 'Wes N7WS' ; jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 39 +j0 ohms?

Jamie:

Is this a full size vertical (1/4 wavelength) with a proper radial field?

If the VSWR is 1.3:1 at 7125 KHz - what is the problem you are trying to
solve? What frequency is X=0?

73,
Tim K3LR

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Wes
N7WS
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 4:05 PM
To: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 39 +j0 ohms?

No, you just need to calibrate at the far end of the coax.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:

Where are you measuring?  You'll only get the actual impedance measuring
right at the feedpoint with a very short piece of coax connecting the
analyzer.

Now, it IS possible to transform a measurement made at the end of a long
piece of coax to the feedpoint Z, but to do that you need to save the data
to a file and export to software like AC6LA's ZPlots or AE6TY's SimSmith.
AND you need to know the length of the feedline, know the exact type of
coax, and plug both into the software.

73, Jim K9YC

On 12/2/2018 12:07 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
trying to understand a 40m vertical, my Rigexpert analyzer has Z, X, R
and C.......when I measure the vertical at 7.125 (target freq) the SWR is
1.3:1, but the Z is 50 ohms, I'm told the impedance needs to be 39+j) ohms?
How can I read that with my rigexpert.....I can get around 39 ohms at
7.400.....is my vertical too long, or too short?
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