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Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd:  Fwd: Tower foundation and bedrock

To: "Hans Hammarquist" <hanslg@aol.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd:  Fwd: Tower foundation and bedrock
From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m@kq2m.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 23:46:18 -0400
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
I think that it is easier and less confusing to say “An unguyed tower than can 
be guyed”

73

Bob  KQ2M


From: Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:40 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com 
Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd:  Fwd: Tower foundation and bedrock

What I mean with "a guyed tower that can be unguyed" is that the guy wire just 
adds strength to an already strong structure. A self-supporting tower can stand 
with no other support. That's the case with my tower. By adding guy wires you 
add, in this case, more strength to the tower so it can sustain more wind.  If 
there is no, or just little wind I can remove the guy wires without the tower 
tipping over. So, "
a guyed tower that can be unguyed" is a self-supporting tower that has been 
equipped with guy wires.

I hope this is not too confusing,
Hans - N2JFS
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: k7lxc <k7lxc@aol.com>
To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>; hanslg <hanslg@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 11, 2019 11:45 am
Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Fwd: Tower foundation and bedrock


    I don't have a problem with guying a self-supporting tower IF the guys have 
very little tension on them (less than 40 or so pounds). Tower strength comes 
from the legs - the more tension you put on the guy wires, the more compression 
you put on the legs thus decreasing the capacity of the legs to support the 
tower. With a small amount of tension, you're not trying to hold up the tower - 
just restrain it from wind forces. With little or no tension, you could be 
subject to wind slamming - a violent and potentially fatal condition.

    What is a guyed tower that can be unguyed per your comments above? I'm not 
sure what that means.

>  I don't know where this misnomer comes from that a self-supported should be 
> weaker if you added guy wires. Maybe somebody can tell me. I understand if 
> the guy wires have a very steep angle the load on the tower will increase but 
> that is not the case with mine.
    It's not weaker - it just has potentially less capacity.

Cheers,Steve     K7LXCTOWER TECH -Professional tower services for amateur and 
commercial


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