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Re: [TowerTalk] Non HOA tower troubles

To: "'Danny K5CG'" <k5cg@hamoperator.org>, "'Kurt Cathcart, KR2C'" <Kurt@KuhlRoad.net>, "'Charley Evans'" <cvevans989@hotmail.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Non HOA tower troubles
From: "Doug Ronald" <doug@dougronald.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 16:36:56 -0700
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Okay, it's the wrong expression - I won't use it again. I don't know the name 
for a group that encourages people to report their neighbors to the state 
anonymously...

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
K5CG via TowerTalk
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 16:30
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Non HOA tower troubles

Using the term for things other than actual Nazis cheapens the word and the 
Holocaust. It's offensive if you are a Jew :/

Unfortunately Jerry Seinfeld started it with the Soup Kitchen.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt Cathcart, KR2C" <Kurt@KuhlRoad.net>
To: "Doug Ronald" <doug@dougronald.com>, "Charley Evans" 
<cvevans989@hotmail.com>, "towertalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 5:56:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Non HOA tower troubles

Not a cool thing to call people Nazis.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Doug Ronald <doug@dougronald.com> Date: 
8/23/19  5:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'Charley Evans' <cvevans989@hotmail.com>, 
towertalk@contesting.com Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Non HOA tower troubles I live 
in a city, I won't mention the name (Sunnyvale), where they have awhole staff 
of Nazis to harass citizens just like you're experiencing.Except in my city, 
they take color pictures, and provide a detaileddescription of the offending 
issues. They also include the applicableordinances that the citizen is 
violating, and provide 2 weeks to comply.Here, it is usually a "neighbor" who 
can make an anonymous complaint, but ifa passing official sees something that 
offends, that person can initiate theprocess. If the citizen doesn't comply in 
the 2 weeks given, the city hiresa contractor at $64/hour to do it for you.In 
your case on that corner lot, you might consider parking your utilityvehicles 
in the garage behind, as well as the items scattered around behindth
 e house. I don't know if a fence is allowed at the street, but anythingthat 
blocks your neighbor's view will help. If a manufactured fence is notallowed, 
then plant a fast growing biological one. I looked up and down yourstreet, and 
the dead end orthogonal one, and the lots look fairly tidy. Isuspect one of 
those folks doesn't like the hardware visible on yours.Good Luck,Doug, 
W6DSR-----Original Message-----From: TowerTalk 
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of WesAttaway (N5WA)Sent: 
Friday, August 23, 2019 05:57To: 'Charley Evans' <cvevans989@hotmail.com>; 
towertalk@contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] Non HOA tower 
troublesCharley:I tried to look at your property via Google Earth but could not 
see anyantennas.  Maybe I was looking at the wrong spot.It seems to me that the 
advice given re an attorney is good, but that costsmoney.  You should probably 
be happy that the authorities are only worriedabout esthetics.  I think you 
should try to minimize the length of ti
 me you are spending withhaving a tower down and antennas laying in the yard.  
Making everything lookas neat as possible with an expeditious take-down and 
re-do is probably themost important, and least expensive, thing you can do.The 
last thing you want to have happen is for some neighbors or publicofficials to 
start complaining about the towers.  The law may be on yourside, but endless 
fighting is not a very efficient use of your time and/ormoney.   
-------------------Wes Attaway (N5WA)(318) 393-3289 - Shreveport, 
LAComputer/Cellphone ForensicsAttawayForensics.com   
------------------------Original Message-----From: TowerTalk 
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf OfCharley EvansSent: 
Friday, August 23, 2019 6:16 AMTo: towertalk@contesting.comSubject: [TowerTalk] 
Non HOA tower troublesI live in a community that is NOT an HOA and have several 
towers none over50ft and all under fall limits and have had since I bought my 
home 12 yearsago.My problem is I , like most amateur
 s like to build and or try differentantennas and when my tower is down and 
antenna on the ground ,the policedept gives me warning letters about unsightly 
junk or scrap metal in myyard. Always stating I have ten days to correct this 
problem and that tendays is from the time the letter is written  hi hi.  yes  
it comes via snailmail   Yesterday one of the officers told me they have 
written me a citationjust 3 days after writing the ten day notice  Any advice 
?Charles EvansKB0VFWDBA Evans PaintingKC.MO. 64118(816) 
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