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To: hs0zed@gmail.com, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Soldering Coax Connectors
From: Fred Matos via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Fred Matos <blainefred@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:08:27 +0000 (UTC)
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On soldering PL-259 connectors...
I was mostly inactive for a long time, and just got very active two years ago.
One of the things that I hate in ham radio is soldering PL-259 connectors, even 
though I have made many thousands of  QSOs using coax with probably poorly 
soldered connectors that worked okay. 
In the past, I used the specs from the ARRL Handbook, which I was told are 
actually Amphenol specs.  It's the shield soldering that challenging.
This time I decided to find an easy way to solder the connectors, so I did a 
YouTube search.
My search resulted in about 20 hits, with guys showing their preferred way of 
soldering the connectors.  Unfortunately, there was very little commonality 
among their methods.   I was looking for a simple method, but some methods are 
very complicated.   Some involve rapid cool down of the connector after 
soldering.  
I have tried the K3LR method which is a major change in the shield-soldering 
procedure.  
I am moving on to crimp connectors to make life easier.  

73
Fred W3ICM and YI3DX
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Sole <hs0zed@gmail.com>
To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2019 1:10 am
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Soldering Coax Connectors

I've been soldering coax connectors for years, mostly N type and BNC 
clamp type. I've probably done several thousands of both as well as 
PL259 and SMA, SMB types. The iron is absolutely key in all of this and 
a simple watts rating is no way to assess the iron. Tip temperature and 
thermal mass are I believe far more important. You want the right amount 
of heat applied in such a way that it raises the temperature of the 
parts very quickly to that required. As you leave the tip of the iron on 
the work for longer the heat spreads out melting things as it go's.

Today I use a JBC soldering station but I think the brand is not so 
important, there are a few that can do the job. Tips used range from a 
tiny fine point that can reach into the weep hole of an N type to a 
chisel head that allows almost plumbing sized connections. Tips can be 
changed on the fly with the extractor plate and time to reheat is about 
5 seconds. Time to temperature from standby is almost instantaneous.

I pre-tin the centre conductor and then cut down to size. The right 
technique allows just the right amount of tinning such that the centre 
conductor will still enter the pin. Heat is applied close to the weep 
hole, not on it and then solder is fed in at the weep hole. Capillary 
action draws the solder into the pin and together with the pre-tinned 
centre conductor requires literally a second or two of heat application. 
Tip temperature never drops below the preset temperature, usually around 
300-320 degrees C for these jobs.

Over-sizing the pin with excess solder is a common problem usually due 
to insufficient immediate heat and excess solder. I'm sure its not a 
"recommended" technique but I don't think for most uses dressing the pin 
with a fine file to remove any excess is a big problem but with practice 
and the right tools it soon becomes a non-issue.

Martin, HS0ZED



On 06/09/2019 10:56, Gedas wrote:
> I use crimp and traditional clamp type of connectors. I have a 
> question on the proper way or technique that should be used to solder 
> the center pin of N, BNC, and SMA style connectors onto the coax 
> center conductor w/o making a mess.
>
> I do not have any issues with connectors like PL-259's or pure crimp 
> type connectors but I still struggle to solder just the center 
> conductor of the coax to the center pin w/o making a small mess on the 
> outside of the center pin and w/o melting the dielectric. I use a 25W 
> Weller for the center pin and have tried various tips. I also have 
> tried different solder sizes down to those ideal for SMD work.
>
> How do folks get solder to flow just into the weep hole ? Do you use a 
> tiny pointed tip iron and put that tip into the weep hole and hold it 
> there until the center pin gets hot enough to melt solder? If so do 
> you then keep the iron in the weep hole and dab solder at the tip/pin 
> interface and hope it gets drawn in? Or, do folks use a larger sized 
> iron tip underneath the center pin to heat it up enough so that solder 
> when pushed into the weep hole will melt and cause a good connection?
>
> What about pre tinning the center conductor?
>
> Either way, regardless how careful I am, more times then not I seem to 
> get residual solder all over the outside of the center pin and need to 
> carefully scrap it off with an X-acto blade after things cool off.
>
> And then of course there is the problem with holding the larger iron 
> tip under the center pin too long and start melting the dielectric 
> because the center conductor has been over heated.
>
> Gedas, W8BYA
>
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> This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
>
> On 9/5/2019 11:07 PM, Bert wrote:
>> I always solder the pin, regardless!
>>
>> Bert VE3NR
>>
>>
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