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Re: [TowerTalk] Shunt Feeding a Vertical

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Shunt Feeding a Vertical
From: Wes <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 13:43:07 -0700
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Begging**K5PGW's permission I continue:

There is no need for the radiator to be longer than an electrical 1/4 wavelength in order to shunt feed it, in fact the converse is normally preferred.  It's easy to consider the input to the Gamma as the feedpoint and want it to be inductive so that a series capacitor can resonate it, but the actual feedpoint Z for calculation purposes is the base of the vertical when detached from ground and series fed.

There are programs out there to aid in designing these systems, with varying usefulness, and they begin with the base impedance.  An interesting paper that covers a lot of this is found here: https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/pdf-ant/article-antenna-magloop-gamma-6MW.pdf Another paper I mentioned earlier also talks about slant wire feeding 60 degree high towers.

There are a number of pitfalls when using EZNEC to model closely spaced wires, which is what a gamma match requires, however, with care it can be done.  Segments must be equal lengths and aligned and not too close together and connecting wires must connect at segment junctions and be similar diameters.  AutoEZ makes this easier because of its fantastic optimizer and is a good way to explore these designs.

Wes  N7WS



On 9/5/2019 6:00 PM, VE6WZ_Steve wrote:
Scott…
I am guessing you have some Yagis on top of that tower.
Like you there are many towers shorter than 1/4 WL long (including mine!) that 
are shunt-fed.
Its the electrical length that matters. Top loading works.

It seems you didn't watch my video, since I actually show two images from 
ON4UNs book referring to calculating electrical length.
So…yeh…I’ve seen his book.



On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:27 PM, K9MA<k9ma@sdellington.us>  wrote:

I must disagree. I’ve been shunt feeding a 21 meter tower on 160 for years, 
with a simple gamma match. At most, it is electrically 3/16 wavelength.

See ON4UN’s book.

73,
Scott K9MA

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Scott Ellington. K9MA

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On Sep 5, 2019, at 5:40 PM, VE6WZ_Steve<ve6wz@shaw.ca>  wrote:

Your tower is too short for a shunt-feed.  It needs to be inductive at the QRG 
of interest, 90 degrees or more (1/4 WL).
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