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Re: [TowerTalk] EHS leads for Phillystran

To: Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] EHS leads for Phillystran
From: Mpridesti via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Mpridesti <mpridesti@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 10:46:48 -0400
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Tim

Thanks for bringing up the use of the XG3. Recently acquired one and was 
wondering how I could do some near field measurements.

Any other particulars I should be aware of regarding pattern testing with this 
unit?

Regards,

Mark, K1RX


> On Oct 3, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Tim Duffy <k3lr@k3lr.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> It's easy to see pattern issues with using a Elecraft XG3 generator
> https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/ect-xg3
> to excite the antenna under test. Then use another antenna (almost any
> horizontal antenna will work) 1000 feet away for the RX and then turn the
> XG3 antenna. The pattern distortion was identified with the NEC model and
> confirmed with the XG3 test.
> If the VSWR varies as you rotate the antenna, that is a good indicator of
> probable Preform interaction.
> 
> 73
> Tim K3LR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> john@kk9a.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 9:37 AM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] EHS leads for Phillystran
> 
> I am not sure how you know that the pattern was distorted but I think  
> this is a good practice Tim. My top homebrew 15m beam has a higher SWR  
> than the lower two - 1.4:1 vs 1.1:1.  Just below the top antenna is a  
> Rohn 65 massive star guy bracket with six Phillystran Big Grips  
> directly attached.  Perhaps insulating the guy would help.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> Tim Duffy k3lr at k3lr.com
> 
> I had a problem with just Preforms attaching to the tower legs connection -
> which caused distortion in the pattern of close mounted Yagi's. That is,
> Yagi's that were mounted only a few feet above a guy connection point. The
> VSWR of the affected Yagi would change with rotation and the effect of three
> Preforms connected to the tower was confirmed with modeling. The solution
> was to use a bent pin shackle and an insulator right at the tower
> connection. You can see it in this view of the middle four element 40 meter
> OWA Yagi stack at K3LR:
> http://www.k3lr.com/2016/ring.jpg
> 
> Using insulators at the tower connection completely solved the pattern
> distortion and VSWR changes with rotation.
> 
> 73
> Tim K3LR
> 
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