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Re: [TowerTalk] Beverage impedance change in cold WX solved

To: <john@kk9a.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Beverage impedance change in cold WX solved
From: Jon Zaimes via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: jz73@verizon.net
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:16:49 -0500
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John,

I have, when a transformer had blown and I didn't have a spare handy, hooked 
the coax center conductor up directly to the Beverage wire. Output will be down 
due to the mismatch, but it still works like a Beverage.

There may be more common mode pickup of signals on the feedline since the 
transformer is no longer there to isolate it from the antenna.

73/Jon

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-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of john@kk9a.com
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 7:39 AM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Beverage impedance change in cold WX solved

How important is the matching transformer on a Beverage? I am not a RX antenna 
guru, I only have installed simple temporary contest Beverages any place where 
I could hang the wire in desired directions.

John KK9A


jimlux wrote:


On 1/22/20 1:18 PM, VE6WZ_Steve wrote:
> Thanks Jim!
>
> I didn't look at the Fair Rite catalog, but yes…its there on page 8.  
>  I am using 73 material Binocular cores.
>
> The temp. coefficient for 73 material is .65 % per deg C.  My temp 
> change is about 50 deg C, therefore the permeability will change 33 % 
> !!
> That seems like a decent amount.
>

Go to page 28, and there's a curve of properties vs temperature. It looks like 
mu is 1500 at -40C and 2100 at 0C  (that's at 10kHz, where mu'' (the loss) is 
very low.

The impedance at 10 MHz changes from about 80% at -40 to about 90% at 0 to a 
peak of 100% at 30C.

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