One data point is worth a thousand opinions here.
Try it, you may find the differences a non issue.
And if they are, build an antenna for the other direction.
73' Mike K9MK
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From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mark -
N5OT
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:09 AM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] VERTICALS NEAR SALT WATER
Dude. Kindred souls - I worked up a station on Caye Caulker (I was
V31NN for a while) but that is all gone now. I had the exact same
questions and got the same answer as KK9A gave. QSOs back over the
island don't get the famous Team Vertical magic sauce, according to
many. However, I didn't think their citations were very good, sounded
somewhat anecdotal, somewhat "conventional wisdom", and just ... not
really authoritative. Given that the island was mostly or all coral, I
can't imagine it being very conductive. Not sure what the mainland is
made of. Probably dirt and rock, heh.
I sifted and sifted through the literature, looking for everything that
said anything like "verticals over salt water are fantastic" (we have
seen a lot of that, right?) and nowhere did I ever find any author make
a statement that sounded anything like "This only works in the direction
of the ocean but not over the land" or "You have to make sure to pick a
location that has the ocean in the directions where you want to have
this augmentation effect." Granted I am sure I did not read 100% of all
of everything published on it. I sure tried though. Meanwhile, when I
asked, people would look at me like I was an idiot. "Of course this
only works in the direction of the water, you ignorant slut" as if they
actually knew the answer. Which I secretly doubted. Shhh. Don't tell
anybody.
After all that, I can tell you that when I had verticals on the dock,
way out over the ocean (this dock was 300 feet long and I had separate
antennas for all the different bands) I was really loud in Europe
(absolutely over salt water) and made plenty of noise into the USA (back
over the island).
Team Vertical made all their splash from QTHs that had water in the
direction of both Europe AND the USA.
So I don't know what to tell ya. Ultimately I was going down there
because I was having such a great time, and I really had nothing left to
prove. Mission accomplished. Good luck. Stay out of trouble.
73 - Mark N5OT
On 7/14/2020 4:43 AM, Bill via TowerTalk wrote:
> Still assessing antenna options for the new station.
> One parcel has about 95 feet of ocean front facing south. Of course the
> idea of verticals comes to mind. Here is the issue. . If the vertical is
> located at the shoreline, I know any vertical will work like gangbusters in
> the southern direction. However, will the salt water effect be lessened in
> the opposite direction (north) and by how much? And, how much would the
> directions to the NE and NW be affected.
> My gut feeling is to the north it would not be anywhere as good as it is to
> the south and to the NW and NE is would be a little better than the north but
> not anywhere near as good as to the south. Am I right?
> Bill K4XS/KH7XS/ V31XX (soon)
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