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Subject: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN MIDWEST
From: RVZ via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: RVZ <rlvz@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:04:35 +0000 (UTC)
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Fellas, While my original message stated he was looking for a 100' to 200' 
Self-Supporting tower-  he would prefer one in the 100' to 140' range.  He has 
30 acres of land so plenty of room on-hand but he doesn't want guy wires.  The 
tower will only be used for a small wind load VHF antenna so a massive Cell 
tower isn't required. I have a 120' Self-Supporting Pi-Rod Tower with solid 
steel legs and it's base is only 5' wide, 2' wide at the top.  It was designed 
for over 20 sq.ft. of wind load which is far more than he needs.  So a small 
foot print tower, like a Pi-Rod Solid-Steel Leg Tower, in the 100' to 140' 
range is ideally what he's looking for.     73, Dick- K9OM  In a message dated 
2/28/2024 6:00:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, towertalk-request@contesting.com 
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Contents of TowerTalk digest..."  Today's Topics:   1. SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER 
NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (RVZ)  2. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST 
(David Gilbert)  3. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST      
(charlie@thegallos.com)  4. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (JP 
K)  5. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (Gene Smar)  6. Re: 
SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (Steve Maki)  7. Re: 
SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (Steve Jones)  8. Re: Broadcast 
Band Filter (Michael Tope)  9. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST 
(Ken WA8JXM)  
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1Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:15:46 +0000 (UTC)From: RVZ <rlvz@aol.com>To: 
towertalk@contesting.comSubject: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN 
THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
<2144127340.2152677.1709144146674@mail.yahoo.com>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=UTF-8 A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' 
Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of any for sale??Thanks & 
73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM ------------------------------ Message: 2Date: Wed, 28 
Feb 2024 11:22:18 -0700From: David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com>To: 
towertalk@contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED 
IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
<fb06f9ce-1384-41ce-bacb-577be4ca27cb@gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=UTF-8; format=flowed   Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting 
tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look like? Dave? AB7E   On 
2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:> A ham friend in Illinois in 
looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of 
any for sale?>  ?Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM 
------------------------------ Message: 3Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:51:34 
-0500From: <charlie@thegallos.com>To: <towertalk@contesting.com>Subject: Re: 
[TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
<014801da6a77$27447020$75cd5060$@thegallos.com>Content-Type: text/plain;    
charset="utf-8" I mean, the Tesco 200ft self supporter is only 53K, 21 ft 
spread on the legs.  Small stuff <grin> -----Original Message-----From: 
TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of David GilbertSent: 
Wednesday, February 28, 2024 1:22 PMTo: towertalk@contesting.comSubject: Re: 
[TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST   Good luck finding a 
200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would 
look like? Dave  AB7E   On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:> A ham 
friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.  Please 
advise if you know of any for sale?>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- 
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-0800From: JP K <jp@ezoom.net>To: towertalk@contesting.comSubject: Re: 
[TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
<40F721C5-8F4F-43B5-9D63-662452530CB4@ezoom.net>Content-Type: text/plain;    
charset=utf-8 Piece of cake: 
https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-supporting-tower-306405
 I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it though?  > 
On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com> wrote:> > > > 
Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at 
all what that would look like?> > Dave  AB7E> > > > On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ 
via TowerTalk wrote:>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' 
Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>>  Thanks & 
73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM> _______________________________________________> > > > 
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(UTC)From: Gene Smar <ersmar@verizon.net>To: RVZ <rlvz@aol.com>, RVZ via 
TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING 
TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
<170980480.1580775.1709147819579@mail.yahoo.com>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=UTF-8 He can look into Trylon. They're a Canadian manufacturer and I 
have one of their medium duty Titan models. He'll need to ask about their heavy 
duty commercial models. We used them on a cell phone project in Haiti and 
they're monsters.?73 de?Gene Smar AD3F? Sent from my Radio Shack TRS-80 model 
100 laptop    On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 1:16 PM, RVZ via 
TowerTalk<towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:  A ham friend in Illinois in looking 
for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of any for 
sale??Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- 
K9OM_______________________________________________   
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    ------------------------------ Message: 6Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:32:07 
-0500From: Steve Maki <lists@oakcom.org>To: towertalk 
<towertalk@contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED 
IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
<ea3faa21-558c-4a45-b49f-bce2a0b4a6c2@oakcom.org>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The weak spot is where it transitions from tapered 
to straight @ 140'. Generally it will handle whatever that 60' piece of 4' on a 
side tower will handle, which isn't nothing. Sabre is a good manufacturer. The 
companies that make SS towers seem to have settled on that basic design - 
mainly varying the number of straight sections to satisfy loading requirements. 
The straight sections are normally 4' face width. We often get towers with 40' 
of straight, sometimes just 20' or 10' for the beefier ones. -Steve K8LX  On 
02/28/24 1:51 PM, JP K wrote:> Piece of 
cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-supporting-tower-306405>>
 I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it 
though?>>>> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David Gilbert<ab7echo@gmail.com>  
wrote:>>>>>>>> Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have 
any idea at all what that would look like?>>>> Dave  AB7E>>>>>>>> On 2/28/2024 
11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:>>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 
100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>>> 
 Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM>> 
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-0800From: "Steve Jones" <n6sj@earthlink.net>To: "'Steve Maki'" 
<lists@oakcom.org>, "'towertalk'"    <towertalk@contesting.com>Subject: Re: 
[TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
<000701da6a82$942b0130$bc810390$@earthlink.net>Content-Type: text/plain;    
charset="UTF-8" And does he have a fall radius of more than 200'?  The 
neighbors might otherwise get nervous!73,SteveN6SJ   -----Original 
Message-----From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of 
Steve MakiSent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 11:32 AMTo: towertalk 
<towertalk@contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED 
IN THE MIDWEST The weak spot is where it transitions from tapered to straight @ 
140'. Generally it will handle whatever that 60' piece of 4' on a side tower 
will handle, which isn't nothing. Sabre is a good manufacturer. The companies 
that make SS towers seem to have settled on that basic design - mainly varying 
the number of straight sections to satisfy loading requirements. The straight 
sections are normally 4' face width. We often get towers with 40' of straight, 
sometimes just 20' or 10' for the beefier ones. -Steve K8LX  On 02/28/24 1:51 
PM, JP K wrote:> Piece of > 
cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-s> 
upporting-tower-306405>> I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a 
bird house on it > though?>>>> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David 
Gilbert<ab7echo@gmail.com>  wrote:>>>>>>>> Good luck finding a 200 foot self 
supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look like?>>>> 
Dave  AB7E>>>>>>>> On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:>>> A ham 
friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.  Please 
advise if you know of any for sale?>>>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM>> 
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    ------------------------------ Message: 8Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:45:49 
-0800From: Michael Tope <W4EF@dellroy.com>To: towertalk@contesting.comSubject: 
Re: [TowerTalk] Broadcast Band FilterMessage-ID: 
<d3d5e084-b1f3-4b97-ab8d-ae3d7720638a@dellroy.com>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=UTF-8; format=flowed A very good way to check for this is to put an 
attenuator (10 to 20dB) between the radio and the antenna which is picking up 
the sort of bleed-through Mike describes. If the bleed-through doesn't go away 
when you add-in the external attenuation, the problem is likely NOT in the 
radio. Switching in the radio's internal front-end attenuation isn't always 
sufficient. I had a case where the bias on the PIN diodes that switched 
high-pass filters into the receiver front-end of one of my radios was being 
modulated by the very strong BCI from a nearby 4-tower array that favored me 
more during the day. Switching in the radio's front-end attenuation didn't 
help. I had to attenuate the signal ahead of that PIN diode switched 
filter-bank in order to reduce the bleed through.? When I did that, the 
bleed-through stopped, so I knew the QRM was being generated inside the radio. 
73, Mike W4EF.........  On 2/27/2024 10:47 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:> I have no 
filter suggestions but just be aware if the interference is from> rectification 
at your station, filters will not help.>> John KK9A>> From:    "Mike Ryan" 
K4CVL wrote:>> During the last 160m SSB contest it became obvious that I am in 
need of a> serious broadcast band filter.  Though I currently have one in-line 
that I> bought a dozen years ago (cannot recall what brand) I appear to be 
getting> some bleed through from 1420 AM. If only it were good music, or even 
bad> music. But the 'fire and brimstone' programs and subject matter are more> 
than I can take. Suggestions?  - Mike, K4CVL>>> _   
------------------------------ Message: 9Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:59:05 
-0500From: Ken WA8JXM <wa8jxm@gmail.com>Cc: towertalk 
<towertalk@contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED 
IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID:    
<CAABDLm0GR=RiENWms27vGv662P32JizUbzmQnzZN+Cjo-tfJCQ@mail.gmail.com>Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have seen used towers on Craig's list and 
Facebook Marketplace. Ken WA8JXM On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 3:13?PM Steve Jones 
<n6sj@earthlink.net> wrote: > And does he have a fall radius of more than 200'? 
 The neighbors might> otherwise get nervous!> 73,> Steve> N6SJ>>>> 
-----Original Message-----> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> 
On Behalf Of Steve Maki> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 11:32 AM> To: 
towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING 
TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST>> The weak spot is where it transitions from 
tapered to straight @ 140'.> Generally it will handle whatever that 60' piece 
of 4' on a side tower> will handle, which isn't nothing. Sabre is a good 
manufacturer.>> The companies that make SS towers seem to have settled on that 
basic> design - mainly varying the number of straight sections to satisfy 
loading> requirements. The straight sections are normally 4' face width.> We 
often get towers with 40' of straight, sometimes just 20' or 10' for> the 
beefier ones.>> -Steve K8LX>>> On 02/28/24 1:51 PM, JP K wrote:> > Piece of> > 
cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-s> > 
upporting-tower-306405> >> > I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a 
bird house on it> > though?> >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David 
Gilbert<ab7echo@gmail.com>  wrote:> >>> >>> >>> >> Good luck finding a 200 foot 
self supporting tower. Does he have any> idea at all what that would look 
like?> >>> >> Dave  AB7E> >>> >>> >>> >> On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via 
TowerTalk wrote:> >>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' 
Self-Supporting> tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?> >>>  
Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM> >> 
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