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Subject: [TowerTalk] In phase?
From: "jim.thom jim.thom@telus.net" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 13:23:55 -0800
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:38:19 -0500
From: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
To: "TowerTalk@contesting.com" <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] In phase?


<Now, I decided to make another large tribander and built a swing arm so I
can rotate it and <have the other balun on it. I know I didn't change that
balun.  The antennas are at 78 and <47 feet.  I am seeing some S Meter
readings when switching between, upper, lower, both <that make me wonder
whether I actually have them 180 degrees out of phase instead of in <phase.

<Thanks?Stan, ZF9CW

##  A buddy in wash state tried the Top, Bottom, both in phase (BIP),   and
both out of phase  (BOP),   on his stacked 40m yagi's  (180' and 90').   I
designed the box.

##  That BOP was an abysmal experiment, wasted effort.   After 6 months, he
finally found just one instance (40m daytime) where BOP was the
loudest...and that was with both yagi's pointed south....and the station
was in Ore...at 11:00 AM. in the spring.

##  I know one other fellow who had similar results on 20m....lousy.   The
BOP function might work on 17-15-12-10m..... dunno.

##  Looking at it  in software at the time, BOP had more gain, BUT at a
higher angle than the bottom yagi by itself.  BOP is too high an angle, so
yes, you got more gain, but the angle is too high...and results sucked.

##  So if you did wire one balun out of phase compared to the 2nd balun,
you would probably know about it asap.

## Buddy found that BIP was always the loudest 90% of the time.  Switching
from BIP to BOP was like apples and oranges, blatantly obvious.
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