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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Computer Control of a TIC Ring
From: Richard Thorne <rthorne@rthorne.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:19:53 -0500
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Dave,

The 4O3A Rotor Genius would be a good solution. I have one and it has the ability to control two rotors. In my case a prop pitch and a M2 Orion. The setup uses a magnetic sensor and does not require a pot or hall effect switch. I have two, one for each rotor.

I understand that a Green Heron RT-21 can be fitted with a magnetic sensor. That would be a question for Jeff, W2FU, to answer in more detail.

I installed the RG this past summer and its been solid. I had a K7NV RT-21 on the prop pitch but after high winds I was always having to recalibrate as the rotating tower would move. Not a big deal, but it had to be done. The magnetic sensor always gives the correct heading and does not need to be recalibrated after high winds.

Rich - N5ZC

On 4/15/2025 7:45 PM, Leeson wrote:
A problem we have with our TIC ring is that the big gear isn't exactly concentric, and it often skips a tooth or two in the wind. This offsets the pot, making it vulnerable to running up against the end and being damaged. So we can't count on the pot, and are hoping to find a way to adapt either a Hall-efect tooth counter for the ring gear, or an inexpensive electronic compass sensor.

Over the years we have damaged the coax by going beyond the rotation limits when the pot is messed up (we use RT-21s with limits, but that relies on the pot), and are intending to install IP67 limit switches as well. We also need limit switches for our prop-pitch installations, just to be sure we have redundant physical limits.

Open to any indicator suggestions, and suggest not to rely only on the pot.

Dave, W6NL/HC8L

On 4/14/25 9:35 PM, George Skoubis wrote:
Chris,

If you’re looking for something inexpensive try the “Simple rotator
interface V” from remoteqth.com

Looks like it reads the resistance of your TIC Ring pot and will need
a power supply to provide the DC to your TIC Ring motors.

They are 98 Euros without a control panel but controlled via PC.

I use a 4O3A Rotator Genius for my TIC Ring and M2 Orion but with the
sensors it costs 800 Euros to control both so it doesn’t meet your
affordable criteria.

I looked at your KM7W page on QRZ and saw a few products from
remoteqth so you know they do make stuff that works…. It may not have
awesome documentation but it’s not really expensive.

73,

George / W7GES

On Apr 14, 2025, at 7:31 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com>
wrote:

 Roll your own with this project:

<https://github.com/k3ng/k3ng_rotator_controller>

If the TIC uses a pot for direction, it should be an easy implementation.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-04-14 10:11 PM, Chris Hurlbut wrote: I am looking for an
economical way to control TIC rings from the PC. The goal is to
get the control boxes off of the operating desk. I really like
the ERC offered by the guys at Vibroplex, but I don't see TIC compatibility listed. Controlling rotators is not
complicated...surely there is some cross compatibility with
something? RT-21's are nice, but outside of my price range. I
don't see the EA4TX boxes having TIC compatibility also, but it
is possible they do.  Cheaper than RT-21's at least. Any ideas? Thanks! -Chris KL9A



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