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[TowerTalk] Arriving signal interference pattern

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Arriving signal interference pattern
From: David Gilbert via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:05:07 -0700
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I recently linked a YouTube video describing an application I created to try to measure incoming elevation arrival angles using the measured phase difference between two antennas spaced some distance apart.  The application is functionally accurate, but the results I got were pretty disappointing because the measured phase difference and subsequent arrival angle display was heavily affected by what I believe to be multipath effects from propagation, ground reflections, and nearby terrain.  When things were stable with no obvious propagation-related multipath effects the displayed phase was stable but it still seemed to be affected in magnitude by what I believe were ground reflections.

I have created an illustration of what I believe happens under multipath conditions.  The red and green waves in the background (you have to look kind of closely) represent two incoming waves ... same signal but arriving at slightly different angles, with both their angles and their relative phase slowly changing over time. The brighter interference pattern in the foreground includes the effect of ground wave reflections and represents the combination of the four waves ... both of the incoming waves and both of the ground reflections.

The is basically a 2D representation of different arrival angles and relative phase.  The real world would be 3D and look even more complex over time.

http://www.ab7e.com/Interference%20Pattern.svg

The peaks and nulls in the combined wave don't simply represent variations in amplitude.  They also represent variations in phase, and those phase variations can be extreme.

The interference pattern is the result of actual calculations (built by Codex), but of course it uses arbitrary values.  An actual situation would likely vary significantly, but I think the illustration is informative.  At least it was for me.

73,
Dave   AB7E




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