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[VHFcontesting] Re: [WSWSS] QST contest results

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Subject: [VHFcontesting] Re: [WSWSS] QST contest results
From: wbr@verizon.net (wbr@verizon.net)
Date: Thu Jun 19 16:44:17 2003
Unfortunately it's NOT a ".pdf" file and it appears that it can only be viewed
using I.E. (not Netscape) I see a blank white page.
I don't understand how you can say it's a .pdf
I'm assuming you're referring to the link in your e-mail (?)
Bill
WF4R


Ed Kucharski wrote:

> Wow, what an uproar!  And it continues even though we all knew it was
> coming.
> I know that I'm in the minority but I actually prefer the expanded results
> on-line.  What I'd really like to see is a further expansion of the on-line
> results
> as NE0P describes below AND what W2EV proposed back in May.  I've included
> Ev's original post on the subject and a link to his proposed expanded
> results page.
> If I remember correctly his post did not generate much discussion at the
> time -
> now that it is a hot topic again I hope it generates more discussion.
> 73,
> Ed K3DNE
>
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> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:50:44 -0400
> From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
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> To: Weak Signal eMail Remailer <wsvhf@mailman.qth.net>,
> Stanford VHF eMail Remailer <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Line Score Survey -- Results
> Sender: owner-vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu
>
> Does anybody remember the furor over moving line-scores to the web? At that
> time, I thought that we may want to re-examine how line scores are
> presented, with the hope that "we the VHFers" could suggest even a greater
> amount of useful information could be made available in those listings.
> I went about asking the top three scoring stations in each category (as
> shown on the New England Weak Signal contest recap page) some additional
> questions about their setup for the contest...and I added that information
> to their claimed score and band-by-band breakdowns.
> I found it interesting that several participants "chose not to share, for
> "strategic reasons", their information. That is one LAME argument and have
> now said so publicly (see: definition of TROLL). And at least one
> participant "couldn't be reached" to be asked to provide the information.
> Here's my attempt to define "cool information" to have, if anyone would be
> interested in lobying the 'powers that be' to expand on the Cabrillo format
> so that it could capture this additional data.
> Have fun with it...I did.
> Ev, W2EV
> BY THE WAY...it's a PDF...
> http://www.rochesterny.org/BEACONet/line-scores/line-score.htm
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> At 08:42 AM 7/25/02 -0700, John Geiger wrote:
> >Interesting idea, although the glossy paper that QST
> >is printed on might give a smoother finish.
> >
> >That aside, does anyone else thing that the contest
> >write-ups in both QST and CQ are pretty poor?  CQ just
> >goes through and reiterates the top 10 boxes in text
> >format.  I can look at the top 10 boxes and don't need
> >to read their write up.
> >
> >QST gets cutsey and tries to compare the contest to
> >baseball, drag racing, or Santa Claus, but then do
> >essentially the same thing as QST.
> >
> >I would like to see a contest write up discuss
> >propogation for the contest, which they will mention
> >when it is extremely good or poor during the contest
> >phase.  I would like to see them discuss equipment and
> >antennas used by the winning stations.  Or how about
> >operating strategies (although some stations might not
> >wish to reveal these).  For example, some of the multi
> >stations in the VHF contests will work 60 or 70 grids
> >on 6 meters when there is no eskip to speak of.  How
> >do they do this?  Use meteors and WSJT?  These are the
> >things I would like to see discussed.
> >
> >Other human interest stories would also be neat.  How
> >do the best rovers get it done, and what interesting
> >experiences did they have during the contest.  You see
> >all sorts of wild things and meet interesting people
> >while operating mobile or portable.  My friend Don,
> >NL7CO, had one farmer accuse him of irradiating his
> >cattle while he was roving.  That is a classic contest
> >experience to report.
> >
> >I realize that the editors can only work with what
> >they get.  Maybe we all need to send more information
> >to them about our contesting.  The soapbox helps a
> >little, but I would like to see it put into a more
> >cohesive writeup.
> >
> >73s John NE0P
> >
> >--- "Dan Evans, N9RLA" <n9rla@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Best post I've seen in months:-)
> > >
> > > You guys keep it up, it's a long time until the next
> > > contest!
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Dan Evans N9RLA
> > > Scottsburg, IN 47170
> > > {EM78}
> > > IN-Ham list administrator
> > > QRP-l #1269
> > > 1/2 of the N9RLA /R no budget Rover Team
> > > Check out the Rover Resource Page at:
> > > http://www.qsl.net/n9rla
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
> > > To: "Tim Marek" <timm@cccomm.net>;
> > > <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>
> > > Cc: <k6fq@arrl.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:27 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [WSWSS] QST contest results
> > > > True, but I can print out the results the moment
> > > that they are released
> > > and take
> > > > them to the crapper.  If I learn that I didn't do
> > > as well as my principal
> > > > competition I have the added benefit of having the
> > > personal satisfaction
> > > of
> > > > wiping my bum with their score.
> > > >
> > > > <giggle>
> > > > Ev Tupis, W2EV
> > > >
> > > > PS... I must now go to Staples or Office Max and
> > > find high-cotton laser
> > > paper so
> > > > I can reprint and repeat as often as my fragile
> > > pride requires me to.
> > >
> > >
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