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Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] unique situation

To: "'jim hertel'" <n6kmr@frontiernet.net>,"'Howard W3CQH'" <hgorden@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] unique situation
From: "Jim Worsham" <wa4kxy@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: wa4kxy@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:26:47 -0400
List-post: <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Sorry, but PRB-1 doesn't apply here.  PRB-1 only applies to city, county and
state governments and if you have ever really read it you will see that it
doesn't really help you all that much even then.  It only requires
"reasonable accommodations".  Well, I think a 12" piece of wire inside of a
bush in your back yard is reasonable.  I repeat, hire an attorney.  Let the
attorney talk to the HOA.

73
Jim, W4KXY

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu [mailto:owner-vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu] On
Behalf Of jim hertel
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:11 AM
To: Howard W3CQH
Cc: vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu; vhfcontesting@contesting.com;
pvrc@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [VHF] unique situation

Howard,
    Yes this is,  looks like your neighbors are banding against you.
1 Let then know you are licensed by the FCC and you held accountable only by
them. I agree that you send them a copy of PRB 1, all of it.
2 That you are compliant with the HOA with your home,  and also with your
vehicle as per vehicle code, height and weight and other safety codes.
3  Ask what is specifically wrong with your vehicle?
4  Ask if any other home owners are also in violation too, such as sign age
restrictions, i.e. bumper stickers (vote for me), decals of products, places
of business stickers or even license plate covers, or even personal license
plates (broker, realtor, Mary Kay) or even those funny DOT com's.
And all trucks that have a bed are deemed as commercial, so the commercial
vehicle restriction of the HOA is deemed loosely descriptive. 
Any one caring golf clubs, toys, dogs, even groceries in the backs of
trucks.  And what are the intentions of the HOA to restrict these other
gross violators.
5 Notify them that they can buy you out at and time, for more than the
appraised values of the neighbor hood, due to the harassment of the HOA
executives.
6 Buy now before the price goes up from punitive damages suit. Also that you
do not appreciate the legal predicament that they have placed the HOA in
since you are a member of that HOA.
good luck
give'm hell
Jim Hertel, n6kmr

Howard W3CQH wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I am in a unique situation.  I live in a community that has an HOA as 
>many of you may or may not also.
>
>Today, I received a letter from the HOA stating that:
>
>"Recently there have been several comments/concerns expressed regarding 
>the number and type of antennas you have mounted on your truck, which 
>you park in your driveway".
>
>My truck is a Ford F150 pick-um-up.  I have mounted a homebrew rack on 
>the back of the truck - over the bed - and to the rack in 2 of the 
>corners I have mounted a Saturn Six Halo.
>That's 2 halo's that are stacked horizontalaly.  On top of the rear bar 
>I have mounted a rotator, and on the mast I have mounted a stacked pair 
>of 11/11 elem for 432 and in the middle is a 4elm QUAD for 2m. The 
>other antennas are a verticle for 2m FM, and a screwdriver for HF, which is
mounted to my tool box.
>I personally don't think that I have too many antennas.
>
>The letter goes on to say: "The CWV Declarations of Covenants 
>Conditions & Restrictions, Rules and Regulations and ARC guidlines 
>(copies enclosed) address the installation of Television (TV) antennas.  
>Also radio antennas appear to be referenced in the delclarations as 
>being prohibited from being attached to homes".  I guess that means 
>that they think these antennas are TV types, and that if I drive my 
>truck down the street - say 1 or more miles away
>- that I can't have a trailing wire hooked to the house??
>More of the letter: "While the installation of TV and satelite 
>receiving antennas was addressed by the Federal Communications Act, 
>superceding the Association provisions as related to traditional TV 
>antennas only. (I guess that this means that if I wanted to have my 
>satalite provider also provide me with ISP services that I couldn't 
>have that either).  While the installation of antennas on a vehicle is 
>not specifically adressed.  it would seem obvious from the context that 
>the intent was to prohibit the proliferation of exterior
>antenna(s) in CWV.
>
>It would appear that the numerous antennas currently on your vehicle 
>present the type of visual impact that the documents are intended to 
>prohibit.  Many residents came to CWV to get away from the possibility 
>of thes type of visual impact.
>
>Additionally, the Board of Trustees has defined trucks (which are 
>prohibited) as those vehicles exhibiting commercial characteristics, 
>i.e. sinage, or equipment etc. carried on vehicle.  Under this 
>defination, your the truck is the type of vehicle not permitted in CWV.
>
>signed ~~~~~~~~~
>
>My question is: How would you handle this - any and all sugesstions 
>appriciated.
>
>73's de Howard W3CQH
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