On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 01:14:19PM -0800, John Geiger wrote:
> I guess I wasn't aware that running more and picking
> the best 4 bands was illegal or unethical, altough I
> haven't done multiop VHF contesting since they
> developed the limited multiop category.
>
> Does the same hold true for HF? Is it illegal,
> unethical, or not in the intent of the rules to
> operate on all HF bands for say the CQWW contest, and
> then just enter as a single band entry, picking the
> band you did best on? I have done that before, but
> didn't realize that I might be violating the rules.
That depends. The "HF Contesting - Good Practices, Interpretations and
Suggestions" document release by the Contest Advisory Committee covers
this in section 7: http://www.arrl.org/contests/hf-faq.html
Basically, if you are passing QSOs from bands other than your
designated band to your designated band, then you can't designate
your operation on that band as a single-band entry. For example,
if you submit as a 20 meter single band effort, but at some
point you passed a station from 40 meters to 20 meters, you've
been operating on 40 meters to improve your score, so you're
not really a single-band operation any more.
Should the same principle apply to VHF contesting? I would think
so.
> 73s John AA5JG
>
> --- aa4zz@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > ?I know of no time (at least here in the SE) where a
> > 1296 score would ever approach the score of? well
> > equipped 222 station. I also think a pass from 1296
> > to a lower band very unlikely and certainly not
> > common enough to significantly effect scores.
> > ?? For us at AA4ZZ 1296 is run just to help?others
> > and frankly if it affects our score, it is to lower
> > it, because of the lost time and focus from the
> > other bands.
> >
> > 73 Paul AA4ZZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Allowing a "limited multi" station with more than
> > four bands to operate
> > the contest on all of their available bands opens
> > the door for "cherry
> > picking" the best four bands after the contest is
> > over for their limited
> > multi-op entry. For example, 50/144/432 are usually
> > the best three, but
> > operating both 222 and 1.2G during the contest and
> > picking the best band
> > and the "fourth" is unfair, and is in no way within
> > the intent of the
> > rules. In addition, to be fair such an entry should
> > not be allowed to
> > pass any station "from" any band which they will not
> > be claiming in
> > their "official" score.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Pruett <>
> > To: kr7o@vhfdx.com
> > Cc: kx9x@arrl.org; vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> > Sent: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:49 pm
> > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] New VHF+ contest rules
> >
> >
> >
> > All:
> >
> > While I acknowledge the point Robert is trying to
> > make, there is a dark
> > "other" side to this which I think gets ignored.
> >
> > Allowing a "limited multi" station with more than
> > four bands to operate
> > the contest on all of their available bands opens
> > the door for "cherry
> > picking" the best four bands after the contest is
> > over for their limited
> > multi-op entry. For example, 50/144/432 are usually
> > the best three, but
> > operating both 222 and 1.2G during the contest and
> > picking the best band
> > and the "fourth" is unfair, and is in no way within
> > the intent of the
> > rules. In addition, to be fair such an entry should
> > not be allowed to
> > pass any station "from" any band which they will not
> > be claiming in
> > their "official" score.
> >
> > I sense Robert is trying to prevent the contest's
> > rules from
> > inadvertently creating any negative impact on
> > activity levels. This is
> > an admirable goal, but IMHO the integrity of the
> > competition takes
> > precedence. I don't think it's fair to blame lower
> > levels of microwave
> > activity on the limited multi category. If people
> > have microwave gear
> > and don't get on because activity is low, that's
> > their choice. There is
> > nothing forcing them to run limited multi, other
> > than the fact that they
> > apparently think it's more fun.
> >
> > Limited multi is what got me to buy equipment for
> > 50/144/222/432 and try
> > to pull together a bunch of guys to operate the
> > contest. While I think
> > microwaves are cool, and I admire the guys who go to
> > the trouble to get
> > it working, to me it's more work and $$$ than I'm
> > willing to undertake.
> >
> > There's two sides...
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave/K8CC
> >
> >
> > kr7o@vhfdx.com wrote:
> > > I am going to try and stay out of the rover issue.
> > There were some good
> > > changes made, and some...... (I will stop here).
> > Time will tell. Out on
> > > the west coast, but the limited-multi fixed class
> > killed 95% of all
> > > microwave activity in CA for years.
> > >
> > > Related to that:
> > >
> > > 2.6.2.Limited Multioperator: Stations submit logs
> > with a maximum of four
> > > bands used. (Logs from additional bands used, if
> > any, should be included as
> > > checklogs.)
> > >
> > > I am not sure if this exact wording was in the
> > previous version, but the
> > > SHOULD in this line needs to read MUST BE
> > SUBMITTED! In this era of
> > > computer log checking where participants are
> > penalized for NIL contacts, it
> > > is unacceptable for any multi-op to submit a
> > partial log. They MUST submit
> > > their entire log and the the Cabrillo header needs
> > to specify which bands
> > > that station wishes judged for the contest.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee (ex.
> > N7STU)
> > > kr7o@vhfdx.com
> > >
> > > www.vhfdx.com (KR7O/YB2ARO homepages)
> > >
> > >
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