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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [Rover] Rover antennas for use in motion
From: "Howard W3CQH" <hsgorden@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:36:23 -0400
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From: "James Duffey" <JamesDuffey@comcast.net>
To: "VHF Contesting Reflector" <VHFContesting@contesting.com>; "Rover email 
remailer" <rover@mailman.qth.net>
Cc: "James Duffey" <JamesDuffey@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:24 PM
Subject: [Rover] Rover antennas for use in motion


>I thought I would share my recent experiences with rover antennas to  use 
>while in motion.
>
> My first 6 roves, through the June 08 VHF contest, I did not operate 
> while in motion. I went to good spot, stopped erected good antennas  and 
> operated. A point and shoot rover if you will. When the June  contest was 
> over, I realized that I needed to operate while in motion.  I had spent as 
> much time traveling from one site to another as I had  operating. I had 
> missed out on openings while traveling. I had to pull  up stakes while the 
> band was still open at one site to make it to  another site. It almost 
> made me cry. I figure that I could have made  at least 50% more contacts 
> if I had operated in motion.
>
> So I clearly needed to build antennas for use while in motion. I  intended 
> to operate the July CQ VHF WW contest on the way back from  vacationing in 
> the midwest, so that formed the impetus to finally  build and design 
> antennas for use in motion.
>
> For 6M I chose a half wave horizontal loop. Anything else is pretty  large 
> to travel with. I used this design from the web:
>
> < http://neasmn.org/squalo/squalo.htm >
>
> using 1/2 inch aluminum angle instead of the 1/2 inch copper tubing.  This 
> made the antenna much lighter. I fastened the corners together  with #8 
> self tapping screws. The antenna was a bit floppy, so I  supported it with 
> a small fiberglass rod in the middle from one side  to another across the 
> mast support. I use a driveway marker for the  rod. The antenna is 
> somewhat touchy to tune, due in large part to its  small bandwidth, but it 
> did get a good match slightly below the  calling frequency. I adjusted the 
> stub position to bring the whole  antenna to resonance and then the 
> feedpoint position to get a  reasonable match to 50 Ohms. The two 
> positions interact and there may  be a better way to tune this.
>
> This loop is about 20% bigger than typical gamma matched 6M square  loops 
> like the lawn chair loop. The ends are farther apart as there is  no 
> longer any need to provide capacitive loading to bring the loop up  to 
> resonance. The feedpoint impedance is higher and better behaved,  and as a 
> result, it is less sensitive to SWR variations caused by rain  or 
> proximity to other metallic objects.
>
> On 2M, antennas are smaller so I thought I should get a bit of gain  out 
> the antenna I chose. Horizontal loops are down a couple of dB on a  dipole 
> and stacking them gets you only a dB or so over a dipole. I  finally 
> settled on a 3 element Yagi, pointed forward. I figure that I  am usually 
> going somewhere, there are hams there, and so if I point  the antenna 
> forward I can work them. If I hear someone weak, I can  always pull off 
> and rotate the antenna to peak their signal. Or point  the car toward 
> them. I used WA5VJB's Cheap Yagi 3 element design for  this antenna:
>
> < http://www.wa5vjb.com/yagi-pdf/cheapyagi.pdf >
>
> with 6 gauge copper wire for the elements. I mounted it from the rear  so 
> that it sticks out in front of the mast.
>
> The 6M squalo went on top of the EMT mast at 11 to 12 ft above ground. 
> The 2 M antenna was 2 ft down from that.
>
> How did this all work? I had the pleasure of driving through Smith 
> Center, Kansas on my way back to NM to work N0LL. I took the straight 
> road west out of Smith Center and copied Larry's beacons along the  way. 
> The 6M squalo could copy the beacons consistently out to 50 or 60  miles. 
> I heard it when parked on a small hill about 90 miles away, but  not after 
> that. I worked K0HA and N0UNL at distances of 120 miles or  so. N0KE and I 
> had a nearly complete QSO in DM76, a distance of 180  miles or so. I am 
> sure that we could have completed this QSO with my 2  element Yagi. So my 
> conclusions are that the squalo worked fine for  line of sight and 
> diffraction paths out to 50 or 60 miles. It is poor  on troposcatter paths 
> unless the station on the other end is well  equipped and does all of the 
> heavy lifting and there are path  enhancements. There was sporadic E on 6M 
> off and on during the contest  and the squalo did a good job on working 
> most stations I heard. I also  could run stations when the band was open 
> steadily. So I pronounce the  6M square loop experiment a success, 
> althoguh I will see if there is  something I can do to improve 
> troposcatter performance while in motion.
>
> On 2M, the 3 element Yagi could consistently copy the N0LL beacon out  to 
> 120 miles and I had no trouble making contacts out to this range. I 
> worked W3DHJ at a distance of 90 miles on 2M, while on 6M I had to be 
> much closer. Unfortunately, there wasn't much 2M activity on during  the 
> rove, so I didn't get a chance to get a good feel for the antenna.  It 
> performed well enough that I am thinking of putting up 2 back to  back and 
> switching between the two. Or maybe going to a 4 element  version, 
> although that is considerably longer.
>
> The mast is 1 1/4" EMT telescoped into 1 1/2" EMT mounted to a trailer 
> hitch. It is braced with a 2" x 6" mounted to the luggage rack. I can 
> raise the antennas to 16 feet or so when stopped. The antennas  traveled 
> fine at interstate speeds of 75 MpH when stowed at 12 ft. I  can lower 
> them to 8 ft or so to clear obstructions, like the phone  wires in my 
> fahter-in-law's drive.
>
> For the recent UHF contest, I built a symmetrical double rectangular 
> (SDR) loop for 432 MHz. It consists of two loops, each 1 1/2  wavelengths 
> in circumference and 1/2 wavelength high mounted  vertically so that they 
> share a common short side. It is fed in the  middle. This is much like the 
> old Skeleton slot antenna drivers and  also similar to the magnetic double 
> slot used horizontally on 160M and  80M. Here is my poor ASCII art 
> rendition of the antenna.
>
>     1/4 wavelength
> ---------
> [       ]
> [ ]
> [ ]
> [ ] 1/2 wavelength
> [ ]
> [  Feed ]
> ---- ----
> [ ]
> [ ]
> [ ]
> [ ] 1/2 wavelength
> [ ]
> [ ]
> ---------
>
> I built this from the 1/2 inch aluminum angle using the self drilling 
> sheet metal screws. This is essentially 3 stacked half waves in phase  and 
> a rectangular rendition of the double diamond or double delta. I  mounted 
> this on a 3/4" by 3/4"inch wood boom running vertically. This  broke after 
> 2 hours at 75 MpH and I had to splint it back together  with electrical 
> tape and a piece of scrap aluminum I had along. I will  mount this on an 
> insulated aluminum U channel in the future. I  fastened this to the mast 
> with hose clamps. With that single exception  of the mast breaking, it 
> traveled fine with the middle of the antenna  at about 12 feet above 
> ground. You can see photos of this antenna in  action on the UHF Contest 
> Soapbox page.
>
> This worked very well in motion on 432 MHz. I made contacts out to 120 
> miles while in motion from the tops of hills. I also carried an 11 
> element Cheap Yagi for use while fixed. An unscientific comparison 
> between the two antennas by K7ICW on a 70 mile path showed that the  SDR 
> was down 4 to 5 dB on the Yagi that was 3 ft below it. Putting the  Yagi 
> up is worth it as it probably adds another 50 or so miles of  range. It is 
> a bit long to travel with though. Preliminary modeling  shows that this 
> SDR loop is better to or equal than the gain from a  halo loop over about 
> 270 degrees of azimuth, so you don't give away  much. It is much better in 
> the forward 90 degrees. And it is much  simpler to feed and build than a 
> loop. I am happy with the performance  of this antenna. One could stack 
> two more loops on top and bottom, but  that starts to get pretty tall. I 
> may make a 2M version, although that  is getting pretty tall as well. 
> There is a bit more gain to be had by  making the verticals a bit taller 
> and the horizontals a bit shorter.  Two band versions are also possible, 
> so I will explore those.
>
> So there you have it. Three different solutions for three different 
> bands. I am happy with the performance of the 2M and 432 MHz antennas, 
> although they could be tweaked a bit. I would like to improve on the  6M 
> antenna, but nearly anything else is pretty big to put on a vehicle  while 
> in motion. I am considering a reversible Moxon, which may be  manageable 
> with some additional support while driving. Perhaps in the  September 
> contest. But that starts to violate my KISS philosophy.
>
> I have covered what I do for power in the rover while in motion in a 
> previous post. That has continued to work well.
>
> I hope this helps someone. If it does, let me know. - Duffey
> --
> KK6MC
> James Duffey
> Cedar Crest NM
>
Hi - Duffey,

Very nice write up.

I too like you and others have the ability to rove whenever possible.

I use a '99 F150 with long bed for my rover.

In addition to 2 original Saturn 6 - 3 ring halo's that are stacked 
HORIZONTALLY, 1.2:1 swr, I have installed a small TV rotator on a board in 
the back (near the tail gate), and to it I have mounted a 8ft mast.  I can 
stack on the mast my 3 ele 6 mtr beam, a 6 ele 2 mtr beam, and a pair of 432 
7 ele beams.  In the future I will be mounting antennas for both a 903 and 
1296.  I have the whole assembly guyed to allow it to rotate while in 
motion.  I run the rotator off of a 750w DC-AC inverter from the battery. 
When the motion stops and if I so desire, I can lower the rotator/mast assy 
(on a hinge) to adjust or mount different antennas to the stack.  By guying 
the stack, it tends to keep the mobile flutter from the antennas down to a 
minimum.

Best 73's de Howard W3CQH/r 

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