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Re: [VHFcontesting] Entering as a Mobile (/M) in Contests

To: "Darryl Holman" <djholman@u.washington.edu>, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Entering as a Mobile (/M) in Contests
From: "Mark Spencer" <mark@alignedsolutions.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:07:22 +0000
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Darryl, 


I don't necessarilydisagree with what you are saying but the lack an explicit 
definition for nonrover land based mobiles (or portable stations that are 
allowed to berelocated) is confusing in my view, especially in light of the 
prohibition regardingrelocating single operator portable stations. It'salso my 
opinion that those who have made substantive investments in fixedhome stations 
that need to abide by the requirements to keep allthe transmitters and 
receivers within a given radius, might beun happy competing in the same class 
with stations that can move to multiplehill tops within a grid ?? (I realize 
this use case is new issue in thisdialogue, but again the lack of a clear 
definition for mobile or portablestations that can be relocated is confusing to 
me.)


Sorry maybeI'm not fully understanding this issue and maybe I'm reading to much 
into therules. I'm always happy to learn more about these issues and I 
haven'tput that much thought into this over the years. This is a usefull 
discussion for me.


I also realizemy perspectives are somewhat influenced by living in CN89 where 
adjacent gridsare perhaps comparatively hard to access compared to other 
locations and there are many hilltops, mountainsides etc that are fairly easy 
to access within the grid.





Thanks again


Mark S


VE7AFZ



-----Original Message-----
From: Darryl Holman [mailto:djholman@u.washington.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 03:08 PM
To: 'Mark Spencer', vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Entering as a Mobile (/M) in Contests

Mark, Not really. General rule 3.7 specifies a 500' circle for all stations 
(which is modified in the VHF rules for rovers). See: 
http://www.arrl.org/general-rules-for-all-arrl-contestsBest, Darryl ww7dOn 
06/16/2015 11:55 AM, Mark Spencer wrote:> I don't think it is the intention of 
the rules to exclude mobiles. Looking> at the rules to see whare a mobile can 
fit, I see no restriction as to why> a mobile cannot simply enter as single 
operator. In the VHF rules, only> portable stations are restricted from moving. 
In the general rules,> everything must be contained within a 500 ft circle. In 
a mobile it is --> its all in one car. Did I miss something?>>>> Hi, I figured 
the intent of the rule was to prevent me from operating outside of the 500 ft 
circle within a single grid, unless I chose to operated as a rover. In my case 
it eventually helped prompt me to actually rove to other grids (which is 
probably what the authour of the rules had in mind ??) For some time though it 
promp
 ted to operate from home vs gamble that my chosen portable location in my home 
grid was going to be productive. In years gone by I vaguely recall working from 
more than one location in a grid and not entering a log in the contest. I 
figured nothing stopped me from handing out contacts as a non contest 
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