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Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] Comments sought for new ARRL UHF Contest in Ma

To: Alan Larson <wa6azp@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] Comments sought for new ARRL UHF Contest in May
From: John Geiger <af5cc2@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 21:12:23 -0500
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I am against using the distance scoring rule just because it makes it seem
too difficult to new contesters.  If we want to get new hams interested in
UHF contesting, we need to keep it as simple as possible-something that the
new ham with a dualband FM rig or 706/857D can figure out when they get on
446.000 or 432.100.  Most of them would have no idea what their 6 digit
grid is, and might not know how to find out.  The local club could let all
members know what their 4 digit grid is, though.

Same for logging.  Not all logging programs do distance scoring-I realize
that I am really out of date but I use NA and it doesn't.  We need
something simple enough that the new ham logging on a piece of notebook
paper can figure out how they did.

73 John AF5CC

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Alan Larson <wa6azp@gmail.com> wrote:

>   Mike asked, as I have asked about other contests, what formula is
> specified by the rules for this calculation?
>
>   Further questions could include:
>
>     1.  For each of these "modern contest logging programs", what formula
> does each of them
>          use?
>     2.  Is it the same formula in each case?
>     3.  What if I want to use my own program?  (Not being a computer
> "appliance operator", I
>          actually write my own software.)
>
>   Unless the formula is specified in the rules, all bets are off.  This is
> why I refuse to participate in
> "distance scoring" contests - the rules never are complete to specify such
> things.
>
>
>   As for putting the contest in May, that seems silly.  Sure it might be
> warm in August, but one could
> reply that every modern vehicle has air conditioning.
>
>   As a counter suggestion, perhaps it should be scheduled in December, to
> maximize the bad weather
> possibility in the northeast, giving the rest of us better chances.
>
>         Alan
>
>
> Keith Morehouse <w9rm@calmesapartners.com> wrote:
> > Every modern contest logging program I have seen calculates this distance
> > automatically, if you have told it your location.
> >
> > -W9RM
> >
> > Keith J Morehouse
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2016 6:17 PM, "Mike Fahmie via VHFcontesting" wrote:
> >>
> >> The proposal includes distance in the scoring equation.  Does anyone
> know
> >> the equation to calculate the distance between centers of 6 character
> grids?
> >> -Mike-WA6ZTY
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