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Re: [VHFcontesting] Meteor Scatter-Benefit to changing angle of antenna?

To: Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>, VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Meteor Scatter-Benefit to changing angle of antenna?
From: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 15:26:16 +0000 (UTC)
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I don't have a lot of experience yet operating MS, but the scattering geometry 
is pretty simple- you are scattering from meteor trails that are maybe 100 km 
above the ground. If you plug in 100km as antenna height to a radio horizon 
(line of sight) calculator, that gives a range of about 1300 km. Twice that is 
then the theoretical maximum MS range.

For shorter distances pointing up should theoretically help, assuming your yagi 
is fairly high to be free of ground effects. 


Astronomers usually use 2 or 3 element yagis pointed straight up for meteor 
surveys in order to catch the most possible pings. For example see

http://meteor.uwo.ca/research/radar/cmorII.html

They might be running more than 1.5 KW however :) Has anyone tried such a 
simple antenna for shorter distance MS qsos?

Tor
N4OGW




> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 5:13 AM, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com> wrote:
> > I’m hoping that someone with more experience with meteor scatter 
> > communications 
> can answer a question that has been bugging me. Is there any benefit to 
> angling 
> a Yagi upwards from a horizontal mounting position, say 10-15 degrees for MS 
> contacts? I’ve heard some old timers swear that it seems to result in a 
> longer 
> “ping” or reflection period. Others say it makes little or no difference. 
> 
> Geometry wasn’t my best subject. :-) 
> 
> Can anyone speak to this with authority and/or anecdotal evidence? Thanks for 
> your expertise in advance. 
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
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