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Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 199, Issue 14

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 199, Issue 14
From: Roger - W7TZ <ai7rogerroger@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 09:26:24 -0700
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re: FT8 contest mode incompatibly

A thought came to mind, add a line in the drop-down macros, "R -22 'your
call' 73" or even better, just add an "R -##" in place of the 73 in the
free test block. Quick, and no mode changes required.

73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia
Grid Busters
w7tz.webs.com


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> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 10:53:52 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Kim <whensley11@comcast.net>
> To: Jay RM <w9rm@calmesapartners.com>,  "vhfcontesting@contesting.com"
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> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] FT8 contest mode incompatibly
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> Good morning, Keith.
>
> I ran across this with a couple of stations in the Caribbean area.  I
> quickly switched out of contest mode, made the Q, and then returned to
> contest mode.  Didn't do it too many times.  Never saw this from a state
> side station.
>
> 73, Kim - WG8S
>
>
> > On July 22, 2019 at 10:35 AM Jay RM <w9rm@calmesapartners.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Anyone seriously operating this weekends contest and using FT8 probably
> had
> > this happen.
> >
> > You're cruising .313 looking for those new mults or whatever, you see
> > someone CQing WITHOUT the word TEST in the CQ message and you
> instinctively
> > know they're not in contest mode.  No worries, you think.  The WSJTX
> > boffins have tuned the program to compensate for the difference in
> exchange
> > and you know autosequence will seamlessly pull you through.  You call
> and,
> > sure enough, back comes the 'funny little number' exchange.  You reply
> with
> > a NA contest mode exchange (because you're contesting, right ?) and....
> > back comes a repeat - no autosequence.  What ??  OK, maybe I got QRMed.
> > Try again, and same thing.  You can't progress to the finish.
> >
> > What you do now is left to the individual.  What I did was terminate the
> Q
> > and moved on.  You might have fiddled with the setup to switch out of
> > contest mode.  Whatever... the Q was either made or not.
> >
> > What this did, other then temporarily piss me off and cause name calling
> > that nobody heard but me and the shack spiders, was confused me.  HOW
> could
> > this happen....the boffins....they fixed this.  Was the other guy
> manually
> > interfering with autosequence ?  Was the other guy that insistent on his
> > funny number ?  I started ignoring those obviously not in contest mode.
> >
> > This morning, after reading a soapbox comment on 3830, it finally hit
> > me.... (I'm pretty focused on operating during the 'test).  It's.....The
> > Clones !!  Those knock-offs of WSJT - JTDX, MHSV !  THEY don't have
> contest
> > mode !   They can't autosequence past TX2.  So, what to do about this
> > incompatibly ?  It's pretty obvious the clones aren't going to add CM if
> > they haven't already and there are those contest haters that wouldn't use
> > it anyway, but still insist on trying to WORK contesters.
> >
> > I'm thinking maybe the solution is to add some kind of 'quick button'
> > behavior to WSJTX that drops the program out of contest mode for just
> one Q
> > and resets back into CM after the 73 (or something).  Does anyone have
> > another idea ?  If a number of high level contesters presented such a
> > request maybe the WSJT powers would respond.  Or, maybe you think it's a
> > non-issue....or maybe a quick work around all ready exists that doesn't
> > require a guy to drop in and change his setup and I'm just clueless ?
> >
> > -W9RM
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith Morehouse
> > via MotoG
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