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Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] FW: [Trouble Ticket #281] NA VHF Rover Station

To: Mike Metroka <vhfrover@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] FW: [Trouble Ticket #281] NA VHF Rover Stations Listed as EU in ADI File for ARRLVHF Contests
From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 14:28:55 -0500
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" Consider IDing with something else." ???

Whoever wrote that is obviously not a VHF contester and probably doesn't
care about VHF contesting. He hasn't read the rules for VHF contests.

73, Zack W9SZ
(occasionally /R)


On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:47 PM vhfrover--- via VHF <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>
wrote:

> Did you ever note that an N1MM+ ADI file, generated by using one of the
> standard N1MM+ contests (i.e. ARRLVHFJAN, ARRLVHFJUN or ARRLVHFSEP),
> reports that Rovers, using the standard “/R” suffix, are logged as being in
> CONTINENT=EU and not in NA?  Surprised me so I filed a trouble ticket.
>
>
>
> The N1MM+ Team states that the R is PREFIX for Russia and I totally agree
> but every Rover in the USA and Canada (maybe other countries too) use the
> /R as a SUFFIX.  I believe that in virtually every country except Canada
> (due to a special 1952 reciprocal agreement), a USA operator operating in
> Russia would sign with the PREFIX  “R/” followed by HISCALL (Not with the
> suffix /R).
>
>
>
> In any event, I have been told that this VHF issue will not be fixed (See
> the thread below. I removed the N1MM+ troubleshooter’s call since that team
> usually does a wonderful job.).  Anyone know if the CONTINENT attribute
> from an ADI file is used by programs like DXLabs or Ham Radio Deluxe when
> an ADI file is uploaded to those programs?
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Mike WB8BZK
>
>
>
>
>
> From: N1MM TroubleTicket <Support@hamdocs.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 7:42 AM
> To: vhfrover@aol.com
> Subject: [Trouble Ticket #281] NA VHF Rover Stations Listed as EU in ADI
> File for ARRLVHF Contests
>
>
>
> xxxx wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The Part 97 rules, section 119.c is clear about the use of self assigned
> indicator.
>
> "One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each indicator
> must be separated
> from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or by any suitable word that
> denotes the slant mark. If an indicator
> is self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and
> after, the call sign. No self-assigned
> indicator may conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules
> or with any prefix assigned to
> another country."
>
> /R is the prefix for Russia and explains your observation.
>
> Consider IDing with something else.
>
> John, xxxx
>
> https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/support/trouble-ticket/?support_page=open_ticket
> <
> https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/support/trouble-ticket/?support_page=open_ticket&ticket_id=281&auth_code=ODwgbpEUsq>
> &ticket_id=281&auth_code=ODwgbpEUsq
>
>   _____
>
> Mike Metroka 2020-04-23 11:40:32(report)
>
> In VHF contests Rovers are logged with the "/R" suffix.  When using the
> ARRLVHFJUN Contest setup, North American Rover stations (i.e. WB8BZK/R) are
> listed as "CONTINENT: 2>EU" instead of in NA in the ADI file.  I am not
> sure what LoTW does with this continent data but I don't want to corrupt my
> LoTW data with the incorrect Continent information.  I suspect that this
> may also a problem for other VHF contest ADI files where Rovers are logged
> with the /R suffix.
>
> I used the ARRLVHFJUN contest setup for the Spring and Fall VHF Sprints
> since it generates an appropriate Cabrillo and ADI file for the VHF
> Sprints.  Other participants may use the ARRLVHFJAN or ARRLVHFSEP setup.
>
> It appears that N1MM+ interprets the "/R" as a European Russian station
> and assigns it the EU continent in the generated ADI file.
>
> My work around has been to edit each ADI file for VHF contests by changing
> the EU to NA before uploading to LoTW.
>
> Thank you & 73, Mike Metroka WB8BZK
>
>
>
> Example of ADI line for a VHF Rover:
>
> K9JD/R 20200423 000020 000020 70CM WB8BZK 432.10034 ARRL-VHF-JUN 432.10034
> SSB 59 59 WB8BZK EN51 16 1 2 1 EU 1 1 True HAMSHACK 0
>
>
>
> Example of ADI line for a non-Rover:
>
> K9JD 20200423 000216 000216 70CM WB8BZK 432.11000 ARRL-VHF-JUN 432.11000
> SSB 59 59 WB8BZK EN52 4 2 2 1 NA 1 1 True HAMSHACK 0
>
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