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Re: [VHFcontesting] Tech Help needed

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Tech Help needed
From: <chetsubaccount@snet.net>
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 20:46:09 -0500
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This brings up again the age old question: do I want to DX or contest?

A high gain, narrow band antenna does not send a CQ in a wide azimuth. But 
today's rules allow you to call someone on your cellphone and ask them to get 
on and give you their grid while you beam there way. 


Less elements on the yagi (but you can stack them  for more gain or have 
multiple yagis) and call CQs that may be heard over a wider coverage azimuth. 

Kind of like fishing- try by yourself to read the areas to fish vs. other boats 
telling you where to go. Either way you will catch fish and have fun.

Your station, your choice!

Hoping to catch many fish this January.

Chet, N8RA

-----Original Message-----
From: VHFcontesting 
<vhfcontesting-bounces+chetsubaccount=snet.net@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Dan 
Evans via VHFcontesting
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:59 PM
To: 'Jim Worsham' <wa4kxy@bellsouth.net>; Paul Rollinson 
Cc: 'VHF Contesting Reflector' <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Tech Help needed

Hi Paul,No help here with the issue, but I wanted to thank you and the list for 
the topic.
I currently have a CC 6 element on a small tower.  I have a bigger tower I hope 
to put up soon, and I've been wanting to upgrade to the 6M7 if I ever get the 
tower project off the ground.  So I will likely face the same issues.
I've been following with interest.
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    On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 11:55:03 AM EST, Paul Rollinson 
<paulrollinson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:  
 Good morning all,

It appears that I'm not alone with this issue. It's a great antenna until you 
try to push up the band for the digital modes, with potential for more to come.

So far I've learned this from this list and other friends in the VHF spectrum:

The theory behind moving the shorting bars out to more the freq up the band may 
be based on simple J pole type design, when you short higher up the driven 
element, it increases in resonate freq.
The 70 ohm (RG-6) phasing line might be able to raise the center freq if 
shortened. If anyone has done this, please reply with length to attempt.
The driven element might be able to be sleeved increasing the diameter and 
potential bandwidth, which is the biggest problem with this design.
Electrically lengthening the T match bars using  retaining rings at the end may 
create an aching point at hi power and wet environment. This may be 
catastrophic for an amp and will not be explored.
Repositioning D1 may help but this has unknown effect of performance.
Finding a better, free space test range will be first on the list. I have 90Ft 
trees here so spanning 2 trees and hanging the antenna in the middle show be 
I still plan on calling M2 on Monday to see if I'm missing something

I will say this, great responses from the VHF community. Thanks to all.


Paul Rollinson, KE1LI
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