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Re: [VHFcontesting] The impact of the digital modes on the January VHF C

To: VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] The impact of the digital modes on the January VHF Contest and some suggestions on dealing with those impacts
From: James Duffey <jamesduffey@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 18:57:53 -0600
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Marshall - You wrote "However, the total scores of everyone in the contest has 
gone DOWN due to the fact that FT8 takes so long to make a contact.” 

I suppose you used “everyone” for effect, but the facts don’t bear it out, at 
least for the January contest. Consider the K5QE Limited Multioperator scores 
since they switched from the Unlimited Multioperator category in 2014, 
separated into before the introduction of the WSJT-X modes and the three years 
after the introduction of WSJT-X:

January VHF Contest scores
Year            Total Score
—Pre WSJT-x—
2014    75969
2015    94724
2016    69344
2017    61,766
—With WSJT-X—
2018    79205
2019    76212
2020    94941

September VHF Contest scores

Year            Total Score
—Pre WSJT-x—
2013    78740
2014    NA
2015    48320
2016    NA
2017    63570
—With WSJT-X—
2018    43420
2019    60606
2020    47142

June VHF Results
Year            Total Score
—Pre WSJT-x—
2013    383691
2014    483448
2015    273000
2016    629241
2017    409260
—With WSJT-X—
2018    394272
2019    252170
2020    220640


It doesn’t look like your total scores have gone down much since the 
introduction of WSJT-X. Now, I realize that there are a lot of factors that 
enter into your scores, 


> On Jan 31, 2021, at 3:04 PM, vhfcontesting-request@contesting.com wrote:
> 
> ello everyone....Switching to FT4 sounds great, except that the "casual 
> contesters" are not there.? They seem to be welded to FT8 and will not 
> move.? I have often listened on 50.318 during the contests and I hear 
> nothing there.? That forces me back to .313 after a few minutes of lost 
> contest time.
> 
> In June of 2010, the QE contest station made 1836 contacts on 6M using 
> SSB/CW.? Jay-W9RM was a major part of that.? I think that he sat in the 
> chair for hours and he is a very good operator. All that, and we came in 
> SECOND(!!!) on 6M in terms of contacts made.? Can anyone really imagine 
> that happening today?
> 
> FT8 is very popular, especially among the casual operators. They are 
> making contacts that they know they could not make otherwise.? That is 
> why they are addicted to FT8 and will not use anything else.? However, 
> the total scores of everyone in the contest has gone DOWN due to the 
> fact that FT8 takes so long to make a contact.? Yes, FT4 would cut that 
> time in half, but even if everything was perfect, FT4 can make a contact 
> in 30 sec.? A really good operator can make 4-5 contacts in the same 
> time on SSB.
> 
> So to summarize, participation is apparently up and scores are down.? 
> That seems contradictory, but it also seems to be true.
> 
> How can we improve participation AND scores??? I don't know.? I really 
> don't like the idea of allowing two different contacts, one on FTx and 
> one on SSB/CW, with the same station.? I like the idea of checking for 
> SSB on the hour and the half hour.? It is easy to program a button on 
> your rig that goes to 50.125MHz. Push the button for a quick check on 
> SSB and if nothing is there, go back to FTx.? Announcing an SSB opening 
> on the reflectors would help too.
> 
> OH WELL, June is approaching and we will get another chance. Hopefully, 
> we will get some killer Es and we can make contacts like crazy.
> 
> 73 Marshall K5QE

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