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Re: [VHFcontesting] [NEWSVHF] Here's a Proposed Solution for, Digital/An

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [NEWSVHF] Here's a Proposed Solution for, Digital/Analog Operating
From: Mark Wasserbauer <mwasserb@rochester.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 20:27:16 -0400
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I have been contesting for a long time and have a great deal investing in this activity as many of you have as well.  I don't want to see the activity slowly die.  However I believe that if things don't change, it will die a slow and dragged out death. Many decent ideas out there...however many are more of the same sort of thing that sounds good, but do not change anything...or worse, change things in a negative direction.  Someone said we need to reach a consensus on contest changes.  Really consensus....does anyone honestly think there is a solution where all of us contest operators will agree?  I think you are wildly optimistic...and then to divert the course of....my opinion...the stogy antiquated ARRL Contest Committee!  Now I'd say you are in dreamland!  I call them stogy and antiquated but I am secretly hoping they will prove me wrong.....I've been waiting a long time.

As Dave, N2OA, pointed out, VHF+ contesting used to be very exciting busy.  It seemed there was hardly a dull moment.  Now VHF+ contesting is boring.  Operating FT-8 is boring....now that it has sapped the lions share of activity from analog....analog is boring as well.  We will not interest young new contesters when activity is so dull and lifeless.

In my opinion two things have happened that have dramatically change VHF contesting.  First...adding yet another mode to VHF contesting, this time FT-8 and other digital modes.  The second....allowing skeds to be made on non-amateur systems....the Internet.  Both have pulled activity away from analog and made is almost futile to call CQ and any band.  This weekend I hear someone question how contesting was done prior to all the wonderful technical systems?  We called CQ... we made noise...we worked the bands....we worked!  And when we made that long Q on 432, then 903, then 1296 it felt great.

Ask yourself this....what HF contest(s) included SSB, CW, FM, FT-8, FT-4, and other digital modes?  Not too many, and most even separate CW and SSB!  So why has VHF contesting all modes?  I have been asking this question for at least 30years.  I can remember some very big name Microwave guys here is WNY who used to scorn the idea of using commercial means to make skeds.  Now they all seem to be happily soaking in it.  I'm quite sure I know what caused the change, but Ill leave it at that.

My opinions is that we need more contests...not try to resuscitate the contest situation with the ARRL.  It's a battle I am tired of waging with feeble, meaningless, results.  CQ has the progressive and correct idea.  Separate Digital and analog into separate contests.  I think it is the only  way both digital and analog stations will be satisfied.  My only complaint with CQ is....what about the bands above 144MHz???

Let me give some credit to the ARRL Contest Committee for adding the 10GHz contest and modifying the UHF contest to a distance scoring.  However I think they fell short by not making all contests distance scoring! And I can hear it now....what about the Rovers?!?!?  What about them?  Grids where here before Rovers....and distance scoring does not preclude them from operating.  Any way you look at it...distance scoring make sense. Working a station on a longer path is what we are all trying to do...shouldn't they count as such?  Eliminating grids also eliminates the geographical advantage of residing near a grid corner.

We need to start thinking about what is possible.  With enough contesters I think it would be possible to side step the ARRL and create, sponsor, contests without them.  Crazy right!  Think about the possibilities.  We could have every kind of contest you could imagine...even a contest where all the Qs where made digitally using contest bots!  If you are into that sort of thing.

Personally I have lost any hope that the ARRL will make meaningful changes to contesting.  I thinks its time we created our own Contest Committee.  I would be the first one on board!


Mark  N2YB  FN12DT


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