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[WriteLog] Re: UBN DJ7AA SOSB20H

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Subject: [WriteLog] Re: UBN DJ7AA SOSB20H
From: AD6E@aol.com (AD6E@aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:45:11 EDT
A little understanding may help. 

I don't claim any particular knowledge of this particular contest, but I 
check logs for CQP and I've talked to several others who do log checking for 
other contests (including CQ). We tend to do things in a similar manner, 
although the details differ a bit:

No one gets a "NIL" unless the other log was submitted, and the log doesn't 
have you listed for that band/mode.  If the other log was not submitted, your 
QSO is accepted. Thus, the many casual contesters you contact count. If the 
other guy busted your call, the log checking software can figure that out so 
you don't get dinged.

A unique call is not a bad call. You will get credit for any QSO with a 
casual op who gets on and makes only one QSO ... you. However, you should 
expect some scrutiny. Unique calls are checked to see if they might be a 
busted call. This is not always easy or an exact science. However, If you 
work me as AB6E (that happens too often) then you'll get dinged for a "BAD" 
call. Unique calls are based on ALL logs received. 

The worst thing you can do is work someone, then delete them from your log 
because you think there may be an error. It doesn't hurt you, but the other 
guy gets a NIL. If a dupe calls you it probably means you're NOT in his log 
for one reason or another. To avoid the dredded NIL, work the guy again. Most 
log checking software is smart enough to figure this out and you won't get a 
penalty. If you argue the point, he goes away and you get the NIL. 

73, Al  AD6E





In a message dated 6/19/2001 13:29:52 Pacific Daylight Time, ki0lo@yahoo.com 
writes:

> 
>  Wil - 
>  
>  Did the other stations (DL3XM, DF4PL, DK1BT) submit their log to
>  the contest judges? 
>  
>  Or did they appear in "enough" other submitted logs to make the
>  call "valid"?? (not sure how many logs a station needs to appear
>  in for CQWW RTTY -- for CQWW CW and SSB, I think it's 3 or more,
>  but don't quote me on that.)
>  
>  If not, there's no way to verify that those were valid QSOs.
>  I've got dozens of "friends" whom I could add to every contest
>  log I submit, but if they don't appear in the logs of other
>  contestants, I'm never going to get credit for them.
>  
>  Which brings up the point of "casual" contesters -- those who
>  just hand out a few contacts here or there -- if they don't make
>  a point of contacting *several* stations, they run a pretty good
>  risk of having the QSOs they do make get tossed out of the other
>  station's log when it's checked. 
>  
>  Now, on the other hand, if the specific calls you mention *did*
>  submit their logs, then there could be a bug in the Cabrillo log
>  checking software, but I seriously doubt that, as it's been
>  exercised quite thoroughly by Eddie and others.
>  
>  
>  
>  BTW - it's really not appropriate to complain to Eddie and copy 
>  the reflectors for all the world to see. This would have been
>  better handled in private.  But then, as Eddie said in his
>  announcement about UBNs being available, "The decisions of the
>  contest committee are final" - so there's not much point in
>  complaining about it anyway...
>  
>  
>  -Marty NW0L
>   martyt@pobox.com
>  

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