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Re: [WriteLog] [RTTY] MMTTY engine with WriteLog and stereosoundcard

To: "'Rob'" <k6rb@baymoon.com>, <aa5au@bellsouth.net>, <writelog@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] [RTTY] MMTTY engine with WriteLog and stereosoundcard
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:15:05 -0500
List-post: <writelog@contesting.com">mailto:writelog@contesting.com>
Rob, 

> Am I missing something here? 

The specific question was whether it was possible to do SO2R 
with one sound card and the answer is yes.  

>  I will have two audio outputs (one from each rig). The single 
> sound card, however, has one audio input. 

The soundcard has two inputs ... left channel and right channel. 
One channel is used for each radio.  

> How would I get RTTYdecoded on both radios, simultaneously, 
> in that case? It would seem that I need two instances of 
> MMTTY and two sound cards.

No, WriteLog allows running two "RTTY Windows" and each one 
can select MMTTY and a "TNC."  You do need to have MMTTY 
installed twice (in separate directories) as explained on 
the instructions I posted. 

> In addition, I would need 4 serial ports - 2 to control the 
> two radios, and 2 for generating the signals to FSK RTTY 
> input on the FT-1000s.  

Yes, if you want to operate FSK RTTY you need four serial 
ports - they can be "real" serial ports or USB to serial 
converters.  Two ports will be used for CAT (rig control) 
and two will be used for FSK.  However, if you have only 
two ports, you can use AFSK with software controlled PTT. 

The only time you can't use just one sound card is if you 
want to decode all four receivers (Left radio main, Left 
radio sub, Right radio main, and right radio sub) at the 
same time.  In that cases , you will have better results 
using Don's "two computer SO2R" solution with one computer 
per radio (main/sub on left/right of each computer).  The 
difficult issue with decoding main/sub separately on two 
computers (or using multiple decoding algorithms on each 
audio stream) is that Writelog does not provide good handles 
for "two VFO" operation and it takes some effort to move data 
from the additional terminal windows. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob [mailto:k6rb@baymoon.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:02 PM
> To: aa5au@bellsouth.net; Joe Subich, W4TV
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] [RTTY] MMTTY engine with WriteLog and 
> stereosoundcard
> 
> 
> Joe/Don,
> 
> Am I missing something here? If you have two radios (I have 
> two FT-1000s), 
> and I'm trying to set them up for SO2R RTTY, I will have two 
> audio outputs 
> (one from each rig). The single sound card, however, has one 
> audio input. 
> How would I get RTTYdecoded on both radios, simultaneously, 
> in that case? It 
> would seem that I need two instances of MMTTY and two sound cards. In 
> addition, I would need 4 serial ports - 2 to control the two 
> radios, and 2 
> for generating the signals to FSK RTTY input on the FT-1000s. 
> Right now, I 
> have 2 serial ports and 1 sound card, and operate RTTY 
> contests as SO1R.
> 
> Rob K6RB
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
> To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>; <ke1fo@arrl.net>; 
> <rtty@contesting.com>; <writelog@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] [RTTY] MMTTY engine with WriteLog and 
> stereosoundcard
> 
> 
> > Thanks Joe!  No, I don't have this on rttycontesting.com 
> yet, but hope 
> > to
> > get it up there soon.
> >
> > 73, Don AA5AU
> > -------------- Original message from "Joe Subich, W4TV"
> > <w4tv@subich.com>: -------------- 
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > All of the clear documentation on using the MMTTY engine 
> shows that 
> >> > it is necessary to have 2 soundcards,
> >>
> >> Not necessary at all ...
> >>
> >> 1) Install two copies of MMTTY in two separate directories.
> >>
> >> 2) Start WriteLog, select radio -> number of radios -> 2
> >>
> >> 3) select the first radio, click on Radio -> This window is Radio 
> >> left
> >>
> >> 4) Select Window -> RTTY Window -> TU type -> MMTTY
> >> (you will be prompted for the path to MMTTY the first time you do 
> >> this - select the first installation of MMTTY)
> >>
> >> 5) Select TU type -> TNC Setup -> MMTTY Settings
> >>
> >> 6) go to the Misc Tab, select your sound card (Device ID), set the 
> >> SOURCE to LEFT and click "OK"
> >>
> >> 7) Select the RIGHT (other) radio
> >>
> >> 8) Select Window -> RTTY Window -> TU type -> MMTTY
> >> (you will again be prompted for the path to MMTTY -
> >> select the SECOND installation of MMTTY)
> >>
> >> 9) Select TU type -> TNC Setup -> MMTTY Settings
> >>
> >> 10) go to the Misc Tab, select your sound card (Device 
> ID), set the 
> >> SOURCE to RIGHT and click "OK"
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if this information is on AA5AU's web site since his 
> >> SO2R configuration uses two computers.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> ... Joe, W4TV
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com
> >> > [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alfred Frugoli
> >> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:42 PM
> >> > To: RTTY Reflector
> >> > Subject: [RTTY] MMTTY engine with WriteLog and stereo soundcard
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > All of the clear documentation on using the MMTTY engine 
> shows that 
> >> > it is necessary to have 2 soundcards, however I found 
> one reference 
> >> > to using a stereo sound card to decode two VFO's or two radios. 
> >> > Unfortunately, this reference didn't have any info on how to set 
> >> > this up in MMTTY. I'd love to use the MMTTY engine in an SO2R 
> >> > configuration with WriteLog but dcon't currently have a 
> 2nd sound 
> >> > card. Am I out of luck?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > 73 de Al, KE1FO
> >> >
> >> > -----
> >> > Visit my amateur radio contesting blog at
> >> > ke1fo.wordpress.com. 




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