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Re: [Amps] Ten-Tec Centurion

To: k7fm <k7fm@teleport.com>, "R. Measures" <r@somis.org>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ten-Tec Centurion
From: Bill Fuqua <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:13:46 -0500
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I just took a look at some of the emails on this subject. Saying that please pardon any repetition of anything previously mentioned.

When the amplifier is in idle state what impedances does it see on the input and output. Unloaded amplifiers are prone to oscillate at times at resonance not necessarily at VHF frequencies. The parasitic suppressors only eliminate VHF parasitic oscillations.
If the cut off bias is removed before the relays make solid contact for on the input an output the amplifier may momentarily oscillate. Or it may just amplify the incoming signal and if the output is not loaded (output contacts not closed quite yet) create a very large voltage across the contacts.
Perhaps the problem is that the bias needs simply needs to be removed a bit later.


73
Bill wa4lav


At 06:02 AM 11/11/2004 -0800, k7fm wrote:
Rich said:

"Measuring the actual resistance of the parasitic suppressor resistors and
eye-balling their appearance could eliminate parasitics as a possible
scenario in under 2-minutes - if the soldering-iron is hot. Not measuring
R-supp will not."

Checking the parasitic suppressors at regular intervals is part of regular
maintenance.  However, logic seems to be against your theory of paratistics,
in this case.  You explain that hot switching is more likely to precipitate
the conditions for parasitics.  But, Tom said when he hot switched he never
had arcing.  Those two facts seem to reduce the liklihood that parasitics is
the cause.  It also increases the liklihood that timing is an issue.

I do not want to discount your knowledge and expertise, and your success in
curing stubborn cases of parasitics, but you do tend to conclude that almost
every amplifier ailment is caused by parasitics.  I happen to respectfully
disagree with that view.  In some instances, you take a convoluted path to
conclude that parasitics is the cause, when there are simpler, more direct
possiblities, that do not involve parasitics.

And, I should warn you, that I do not have many skeletons in my closet that
you can use to discredit me (at least not that I know of).

But that is what this forum is for.

Colin K7FM



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