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Re: [Amps] Bypass SWR RJ1As

To: "David Craig" <davidhcraig@verizon.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Bypass SWR RJ1As
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:21:49 -0500
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Simply trying a few SM's is a shotgun approach. Start off with a mica 
compression trimmer to ground and adjust for the best match which should 
be very close to 1.1:1. Then measure the value and substitute the 
closest fixed cap.

Having a perfect match is rather meaningless in the long run if your 
exciter delivers the proper power in bypass. Even a slight power drop 
wont wiggle someones  S meter any different.

Carl
KM1H



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Craig" <davidhcraig@verizon.net>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:49 AM
Subject: [Amps] Bypass SWR RJ1As


>    Hello All,
>
>    Looking for input/advice regarding "tuning" the relays of my latest 
> homebrew GS35b 50 MHz amp.  Using a pair of RJ1As (used but hipotted 
> good, I presume MRI pulls) for RF switching.  In other amps I have 
> been able to "tune" out slight "thru" SWR issues (driver thru, amp in 
> standby) using silver micas to ground.  Projects that worked fine for 
> me were K5AND's Schrack relay board using a 10pf to ground, an SB220 
> using ~68pf to ground...
>    This is my first time trying vacuum relays & it "appears" I have 
> capacititive reactance, I think?  With just RG214 to the relays & RF 
> in/out connectors, I get a whopping 3 to 1 SWR with amp in bypass.  I 
> tried various silver mica caps, and low value trimmers to ground from 
> the NC to NC coax connection- lowest bypass SWR I can get is 1.3-1.4 
> to 1 with a single 47pf silver mica to ground.  This is usfficient to 
> allow the driver to put out 100w with the amp in bypass mode but isn't 
> "right."  I'd much prefer a flat SWR.
>    I am a bit fearful of trying a small inductor to ground, don't want 
> to hit a resonance at 6m & burn out my exciter.  I can't find any RF 
> impedance data on the RJ1A but assume that it must be a fair bit off 
> 50 ohms at RF, or maybe I have a bad relay?  Anyone have this problem, 
> and if so how did you solve it?  Is is safe to use a parallel inductor 
> to ground with my driver so long it tests OK at 50MHz on my MFJ 259?
>    My relay commons are fed to RF in & out & NC leads connected to 
> each other with about 2.25" of shielded/grounded RG214 between the 
> relay posts.  Both relays are in the cathode pressure compartment, not 
> in a shielded box (which doesn't present a problem with amp RF out). 
> Have also (of course) the cathode choke & separate bias choke in the 
> compartment, along with a sefl-designed pi-input tuning network.  The 
> screwed-up planning I did on the cabinet makes it difficult to 
> increase the NC to NC cable length, but could that help?  I'd am 
> curious if this is a common issue with RJ1As.  Any input appreciated.
>
>    Thanks & 73
>    Dave N3DB
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