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Re: [Amps] pole transformer

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Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
From: Scott McGrath <mcgrath@fas.harvard.edu>
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:35:14 -0500
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There is no totally safe chemical 

I suggest a quick google for "DiHydrogen Monoxide"



Alex Eban wrote:
> Hi guys:
> I think you got to overstretching the subject!
> Did any one of you get a good draught of gas lately?
> If not, why PCB?
> Drop it, guys. No chemical is totally safe! Treat it with due respect and
> button the subject up.
> In any case, if you don't build up a radio station, such a transformer won't
> sit well on anybody's table.
> 73  and all the best:
> Alex  4Z5KS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Carl
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:47 PM
> To: Jim Smith; Amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>
> Its strange that my post takes about 20 hours to show up and yours took 
> 12.
>
> Makes me wonder if they are being screened.
>
> In any event I respect your views but unfortunately it does not seem 
> reciprocal.
>
> I see no need to continue. Im pushing 70 and my last complete physical 2 
> months ago was great so I can assume that any exposure 30-40 years ago 
> was inconsequential. Im not particularly concerned by any casual 
> exposure in the present <g>
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Smith" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <Amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>
>
>   
>> Carl,
>> I think everyone understands both of our positions so I won't bother 
>> taking
>> up any more reflector bandwidth on the subject beyond this message; 
>> but no,
>> I'm going to stay right here on my pedestal calling them as I see them
>> unless you can convince the moderator to block responsible opposing 
>> views.
>>
>> Wikipedia is not the source, it just summarizes the data. There are 
>> plenty
>> of links to the referenced materials for you to check out yourself. 
>> There
>> are plenty of other places to look for information as well.
>>
>> It's all just evidence. You can't prove anything, just like you can't 
>> prove
>> smoking causes cancer. But if the EPA bans it, making it illegal to
>> manufacture and sell in most applications, I see no reason to take an
>> unnecessary risk with it.
>>
>> I'll admit, I'm a little too conservative for some people. I have to 
>> be in
>> my line of work. I always err on the side of safety. Those who don't 
>> end up
>> getting sued, even if they just gave the customer what they insisted 
>> on.
>>
>> You're twisting my words again. I never said you intentionally try to
>> physically hurt anyone. I don't see any need to repeat what I said yet
>> again.
>>
>> Jim Smith
>> KQ6UV
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:30 AM
>>> To: Jim Smith; Amps@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>>>
>>> I guess you need to come down off your pedestal Jim and try to
>>> understand what I said.
>>>
>>> I was not advocating drinking or bathing in it by any convoluted 
>>> stretch
>>> of your imagination. My comment was simply ridiculing the paranoia 
>>> and
>>> mythology surrounding the subject as regard to ham use. Industrial
>>> pollution or other chemical formulations are not part of the 
>>> discussion.
>>>
>>> However, no responsible study has shown that a casual skin contact 
>>> with
>>> transformer oil ( generic term covering caps and dummy loads) has 
>>> harmed
>>> a human. I dont consider Wikipedia as a responsible source of 
>>> anything
>>> since anyone can edit with their own biases.
>>>
>>> If my GE Pyranol capacitor started to leak I would toss it out the 
>>> same
>>> as if a later non PCB cap leaked. But I wouldnt think twice about 
>>> using
>>> another good one as a replacement.
>>>
>>> Suggesting that I would intentionally physically hurt anyone on here 
>>> is
>>> the height of irresponsibility on your part.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>> KM1H
>>>       
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