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Re: [Amps] 3-500Z blue glow on glass

To: <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, <tomp@prohigh.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 3-500Z blue glow on glass
From: Patrick Barthelow <apolloeme@live.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:34:29 -0700
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I have seen two types of blue glow in a TX vacuum tube.  One, on the inside of 
the glass envelope, and another can be seen in the case of 3-500Zs by looking 
vertically down between the slits in the folded tantalum plate, between the 
filament and the plate.  If the blue is there, then it is likely gas, being 
ionized by bombardment of electrons in transit to the plate.  If it is on the 
inside surface of the glass envelope then that is I think Cerenkov radiation 
which is produced by the near speed of light electrons impacting the glass and 
decelerating.  The blue that I saw on the glass was not bold, more like faint, 
and had the same color you see in the water pools that hold waste nuclear fuel 
rods, and I think of a similar similar cause, Cerenkov radiation.  Hi speed 
Electrons decelerating down to the speed of light when encountering materials 
with slower speeds of light.

Best Regards,   
73, de Pat Barthelow AA6EG
 
> From: km1h@jeremy.mv.com
> To: tomp@prohigh.com; amps@contesting.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:24:03 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 3-500Z blue glow on glass
> 
> That sure sounds like gas. You might be able to salvage it by setting up a 
> jig and running about 500V and enough positive bias to get the anode red. 
> Use plenty of air and let it cook for an hour or so.
> 
> Then step the HV to 1000, 1500, etc while adjusting the bias for the same 
> anode dissipation and glow.
> 
> No guarantees.
> 
> Carl
> KM1H
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Prohigh" <tomp@prohigh.com>
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:28 PM
> Subject: [Amps] 3-500Z blue glow on glass
> 
> 
> >I have a tl-922 amp. One of the 3-500Zs had a blue/purple glow on the 
> >glass
> > when HV is applied. The other one has no glow. I don't think that this 
> > is
> > a problem as the tubes are not gassy. I just want to make sure
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom - AB3FL
> >
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