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Re: [Amps] Fwd: Ten-Tec Titan 425 - input SWR high

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Fwd: Ten-Tec Titan 425 - input SWR high
From: "Jim W7RY" <w7ry@centurytel.net>
Reply-to: Jim W7RY <w7ry@centurytel.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:49:58 -0700
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Most SWR indicators in modern solid state radios are very accurate. With a 20 degree index band switch, sometimes the input and output switches can get slightly out of sync.

Try to change to the desired band from the other direction. In other words, try switch to 40 from 80, or from 20 and repeat your test.

There is a coupling between the tank and the tuned input that may have loosed up.

73
Jim W7RY




-----Original Message----- From: Gerald Williamson via Amps
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:21 AM
To: va3uma@gmail.com ; amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Fwd: Ten-Tec Titan 425 - input SWR high

Prem, if a tube was bad the power output would be much lower than the 1500w
you measured.

The spectrum analyzer does not have enough drive power, same as the MFJ
Analyzer, to test input vswr.

The unchanged plate tune and load settings suggest the amplifier is working
properly as well.

Happy hunting!

72,
Gerald K5GW



In a message dated 10/19/2014 8:37:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
va3uma@gmail.com writes:

Good  morning gentlemen, and thanks to all for the quick and concise
replies.

- One of the tubes being bad: Will see if spares are  available
- LPF caps going bad: My plan was to analyze the cut-off freq for  each band
(@ Z=50R) on my Spec-analyzer/tracking-gen - but left this option  to the
last, and also wanted to hear of other 'easy' methods from the gurus  who've
already worked on this Amp.
- Plate/Load settings: The actual  numbers match the ones in the manual
(surprisingly - even after all these  years).

73,
Prem
www.qsl.net/va3uma

---------- Forwarded  message ----------
From: Prem <va3uma@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct  19, 2014 at 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ten-Tec Titan 425 - input SWR  high
To: wl7e@arrl.net


Roger that, Joe. Will let you  know.

73,
Prem.

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Joe  <wl7e@arrl.net> wrote:

Prem,

I would be  interested in what you find out. I am having the same trouble.
I am  now replacing the tubes in my Alpha as that seems to be the
culprit.

73,
Joe WL7E

On Sun, Oct 19,  2014 at 5:02 AM, Prem <va3uma@gmail.com> wrote:

 Friends, for a long time now, the input SWR on my friend's Ten-Tec
Titan
425 is very high (average > 2 on all bands) - when  measured with a MFJ
analyzer at the input - with a 50R dummy-load  at the AMP output.

So long, he's used an ATU between  the exciter and the 425, but I'd like
to
find out if there's way  to fix this SWR problem (no slug-tuning. fixed L
and C in the i/p  LPF).

I've already checked/assessed the  following:
1- Amp gives full o/p of 1500W pep on a DL with an ATU  between the
exciter
and the amp (so, tubes should be OK  ?)
2 - The vacuum relay contacts test 100% OK with a multi-meter  continuity
test.
3 - No visual or smell indication of  any burns/arcing/toast - in the I/P
LPF or in any other circuit  elements.
4 - Band switch contacts look good. Cleaned with De-Oxit  - just to be on
the safer side.
5 - Ig and Ip are as  per specs

Any help/lead is  appreciated.

73,
Prem
 VA3UMA
www.qsl.net/va3uma
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