KF3P sez:
>>>>......tell me I was the first one who had actually ASKED if the freq was
in use before
>>>>calling CQ! This is bad PR guys and it's (hopefully) mostly due to new
and
>>>>inexperienced operators.
Wish it were true, but at least 50% of the time it's one of the old veterans,
and usually within 2 seconds after the end of my transmission - and they're
usually loud which tells me a group of op's think a CQ Test CQ test de
.......... K, constitutes a QRL?
For years, guys griped about QRL? and insisted on di-dit dit instead. It
seems the dudes doing the di-dit dit thing need to reciprocate with their
ears. A quick "di-dah-dit" response almost is always ignored. A long "R R
Freq QRL Pse QSY" seems to be the only appropriate response to get the
interloper's attention, totally defeating the purpose of the di-dit dit
routine.
How to ask if freq is in use?? --- CW: "QRL?" WAIT and LISTEN 2 seconds
QRL? WAIT and LISTEN & tune a few Hz up & down AND LISTEN for 2 seconds
then GO.
On phone: Freq in use? wait AND LISTEN 2 seconds Freq in use? WAIT and
LISTEN - then GO for it.
I usually ask 3-4 times on phone over about a 6 second span, so if I land on
you, you didn't really want your frequency that bad.
73, Gator N5RZ -------------------------------;--;<< N5RZ@aol.com
>From Sergei Kulyov <skulyov@freenet.columbus.oh.us> Tue Jul 11 20:53:19 1995
From: Sergei Kulyov <skulyov@freenet.columbus.oh.us> (Sergei Kulyov)
Subject: AA8OT IARU Results
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9507111519.A23334-0100000@acme>
>From Sergei Kulyov <skulyov@freenet.columbus.oh.us> Tue Jul 11 20:54:03 1995
From: Sergei Kulyov <skulyov@freenet.columbus.oh.us> (Sergei Kulyov)
Subject: AA8OT IARU Results
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9507111503.A23334-b101000@acme>
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Content-Description:
IARU HF Championship -- 1995
Call: AA8OT Country: United States
at W8LT (Ohio State University ARC)
Category: Single operator, Mixed.
BAND QSO QSO-PTS PTS/Q ZONES HQ STNS
160 0 0 0.00 0 0
80 22 40 1.82 4 1
40 56 142 2.54 16 4
20 385 1317 3.42 32 20
15 44 134 3.05 13 7
10 13 31 2.38 5 1
---------------------------------------------------
Totals 520 1664 3.20 70 33
Score: 171,392 points
RIG: FT-767GX + TL-922A (only one tube)
Antennas: We had a strong storm 10 days ago here in Columbus,
so our 3 band Quad was broken and non rotable. So actually I
used only one 20 m element for 20-10 m.
For 80/40 m - 800 f 35 years old Long wire (never replaced).
Condxs were not bad. I think smth in the middle bitween CQ-M
and WPX CW.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Several operators reported me that they had
QSO before. I think that somebody used my call. John, ON4UN -
I didn't work with you; also VK2APK I didn't work with you on
20 SSB!
I have no ideas who did it, my first QSO dated at 11:21 8 July.
I'll send QSLs 100% and will appreciate if especially USA operators
will also confirm our QSOs. I need QSLs for 5 Band WAS and US-CA
awards.
===================================================================
See you next contest!
73! Sergei AA8OT, UA3AP
Columbus, Ohio
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>From Brian Short <ke7gh@PrimeNet.Com> Tue Jul 11 20:58:38 1995
From: Brian Short <ke7gh@PrimeNet.Com> (Brian Short)
Subject: KF3P IARU SO Mixed Score....
Message-ID: <199507111958.MAA19804@usr5.primenet.com>
> >>>>......tell me I was the first one who had actually ASKED if the freq was
> in use before
> >>>>calling CQ! This is bad PR guys and it's (hopefully) mostly due to new
> and
> >>>>inexperienced operators.
>
>
>
> Wish it were true, but at least 50% of the time it's one of the old veterans,
> and usually within 2 seconds after the end of my transmission - and they're
> usually loud which tells me a group of op's think a CQ Test CQ test de
> .......... K, constitutes a QRL?
Not to beat a badly mutilated horse into subatomic particles, but is there
the slightest chance this may have happenned on 14.230 once or twice?
73 >
>From Jeff Steinman <Jeff.Steinman.0247501@nt.com> Tue Jul 11 22:00:06 1995
From: Jeff Steinman <Jeff.Steinman.0247501@nt.com> (Jeff Steinman)
Subject: SO vs. SOA scores, one last
Message-ID: <n1406640364.29308@nrchq1.rich1.nt.com>
Subject: Time: 2:51
PM
7/11/95
I've seen a few notes lately about the SOA vs. SO question; i.e., why
are SO scores typically higher than SOA. It got me thinking about my
personal experiences.
I operated SO from WM5G in the 89/90/91 WW SSB, 91 WW CW, 91 ARRL DX SSB
and 92 ARRL DX CW. I was SOA from WM5G on two occasions, 1989 ARRL DX
SSB and 1992 CQ WW SSB.
The '90 ARRL was a close battle with my arch nemesis, Adam Roger, who
was doing a SOA from K1GQ, not K1EA. That's probably the only reason I
beat John by 100K, but I'll never let him forget it! The top SO score
was about 15% lower.
In 1992 I elected to go SOA in the WW as my previously mentioned rival
was SO, as he was in 1991, when he won the contest and I finished 4th in
less than stellar conditions. (He gave me a break in 1990 and was M/S).
The '92 contest saw great overall propagation from 10-160 and I ended up
with about 6.7M, about 1M LOWER (15%) than AR who was SO and blew away
the old record. Aha! you say, so SOA is an impediment !?!?
AR ended up with 3800 QSOs that weekend; me 2800. It's not because I
slept too much or made big operating mistakes or even because I was SOA
[read "distracted"] that I was 1000 Q's down. It's because by the Fall
of 1992 the solar numbers were not in the favor of W5 for DX contesting,
from a rate perspective. John deserves some credit too, I suppose. It's
possible I would have made more QSO's SO only by spending less time
calling multipliers. But I'm not sure this is case from WM5G as I don't
usually have to call more than 2 or 3 times in pileups. No doubt that
as SO my score would have been down significantly from a lower
multiplier total.
The W5 packet system is fair but nothing compared to the mega East coast
clusters, from a user count standpoint. I did benefit in '92 from the
local N5AU M/M operation.
I've been doing some serious thinking as to why, for a given
operator/station/contest, the operator would score less if he entered as
a SOA than as a pure SO without assistance.
Here's what I came up with:
!!!
73
Jeff Steinman KR0Y
jsteinman@aol.com
>From kf3p@cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) Tue Jul 11 23:29:00 1995
From: kf3p@cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) (Tyler Stewart)
Subject: KF3P IARU SO Mixed Score....
Message-ID: <199507112229.SAA26657@cais.cais.com>
>
>KF3P sez:
>
>>>>>......tell me I was the first one who had actually ASKED if the freq was
>in use before
>>>>>calling CQ! This is bad PR guys and it's (hopefully) mostly due to new
>and
>>>>>inexperienced operators.
>
>
>
>Wish it were true, but at least 50% of the time it's one of the old veterans,
>and usually within 2 seconds after the end of my transmission - and they're
>usually loud which tells me a group of op's think a CQ Test CQ test de
>.......... K, constitutes a QRL?
>
Yeah, that's the response I got from one of 'em. I think it's false economy
in anything but the sprints where you have to keep moving. I'd rather spend a
couple more minutes S&Ping looking for a real good freq than spend 5 minutes
fighting for a mediocre one that I didnt deserve anyway. It pays off
handsomely when you dont have to ask for a bunch of repeats due to QRM and
you dont piss people off (usually):}
>For years, guys griped about QRL? and insisted on di-dit dit instead. It
>seems the dudes doing the di-dit dit thing need to reciprocate with their
>ears. A quick "di-dah-dit" response almost is always ignored. A long "R R
>Freq QRL Pse QSY" seems to be the only appropriate response to get the
>interloper's attention, totally defeating the purpose of the di-dit dit
>routine.
>
>How to ask if freq is in use?? --- CW: "QRL?" WAIT and LISTEN 2 seconds
> QRL? WAIT and LISTEN & tune a few Hz up & down AND LISTEN for 2 seconds
> then GO.
>
Well, I dont go that far usually, but I QRL, slide my freq. if/as necessary to
straddle adjacent stations, QRL again, and GO!
>On phone: Freq in use? wait AND LISTEN 2 seconds Freq in use? WAIT and
>LISTEN - then GO for it.
>
I also try to cover the main directions with antennas when I do it so I dont
miss someone...like N2RM on backscatter or something! hi hi
Otherwise you can end up with 2 guys logging the same Q's for a few minutes!
>
>73, Gator N5RZ -------------------------------;--;<< N5RZ@aol.com
73, Tyler KF3P
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