Quacks
Yes One can ask in a Phony SSB test and its easy. On CW it takes a lot
longer and also 1/2 of those DUPE's don't copy CW . Just calls and reports
?? Hopefully.
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Erik Holm" <sm2ekm@telia.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 17:23
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Dupes?
>
> UA9CIR is absolutley right, let´s deal with the problem why people
> do work dupes.
> If we just don´t care at all and just work whatever calls us no matter
> how many times we don´t do anything about the original problem instead
> we just bypass it.
> Forexample, usually the logging program will pop up the first QSO and
> with that info you can pritty quick check with the guy if he can find you
> at that specific time. Sure it might take 2 seconds longer then just
working
> him but maybe it might learn a few to be more careful in the future.
Usually
> they will find the previous QSO, just a few will not find anything and
then
> you simply just work him.
>
> 73, Jim SM2EKM
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
>
> Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
>
> >It takes a particular state of mind to extend
> >
> > "Something should be allowed"
> >
> >to
> >
> > " Something will be done over and over and over and over...."
> >
> >The truth is that NOBODY that I know just wants to work the same guy
> >over and over on the same band just because dupes are now allowed. In
> >the CQWW at NY4A, there was one fellow, known to every op at NY4A, who
> >was the ONLY, I repeat ONLY multi-dupe in the log. He appeared not to
> >understand "QSO B4" or the equivalent in the language that went with
> >his call sign.
> >
> >My logging program tells me if I have someone already in the log. I
> >DON'T want to work him again. He's a DUPE. It's wasted time.
> >
> >When I do call someone and I'm in as a dupe in his log, there is a
> >DIFFERENCE OF OPINION as to whether I'm a dupe. What the procedure is
> >now, is that you should complete the contact in favor of the fellow
> >that says the QSO is not in the log. That's COURTESY, not EXCESS.
> >
> >THE RULES HAVE CHANGED. DEAL WITH IT.
> >
> >73, Guy.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mike UA9CIR" <lab3@ekb.ru>
> >To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:01 AM
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dupes?
> >
> >
> >
> >Good morning,
> >
> >K2AV wrote:
> >
> >>I am afraid it will be a LONG time before hamdom finally realizes
> >>
> >that
> >
> >>they are now supposed to work dupes and leave them in the log.
> >>
> >
> >I hope this will never happen.
> >>From the recent postings, we (especially the younger ops) learned
> >that
> >working dupes is not a bad thing at all.
> >We learned that working all dupes is a good thing because if you don't
> >work him it may cost you triple penalty.
> >Never say "QSO B4" - just work him, otherwise it will cost you a lot
> >if
> >he does not call you any more.
> >Nothing wrong in calling CQ on top of someone else, some of the
> >callers
> >will not put you in the log, no problem - you'll work them again
> >later.
> >Because if u don't - it may cost you 4 QSO.
> >If you hear a multiop station, call them as many times as you can -
> >their enjoyment is not complete if you don't work each operator.
> >
> >etc. etc, a lot has been said how to work dupes, but very little how
> >NOT to make them. This is strange because one good QSO takes less time
> >than two QSOs (one good and one bad). And no penalty involved.
> >Besides, the contest goal is to QSO as many different stations as
> >possible, not to QSO the same stations as many times as possible.
> >
> >If we lower operating standards we may get more inexperienced ops
> >which will result in more dissatisfied ops leaving the hobby and in
> >lower totals and degradation in the long run.
> >
> >73 Mike UA9CIR
> >
> >
>
>
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