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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Your thoughts on this one
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Sun Dec 1 08:53:22 2002
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 10:18:11PM -0500, Cqtestk4xs@aol.com wrote:
> I received the following email today.  What would you guys do?......Names and
> calls changed to protect the innocent.

If you had received this from just any old contester, you wouldn't cheat 
for them on their behalf.  Does the fact that they claim to be kids make 
cheating for them any better?

The best thing to do is to explain to them why this is unacceptable and
unsportsmanlike.


> Subj:    Phone Sweepstakes
> 
> Hi...
> 
>    We need your help.  
> 
>     During the recent ARRL Phone Sweepstakes you made contact with the 
> XYZ Radio Club, Jr located near Anytown.
> 
>     XYZ is an amateur radio club just for kids and we had the 
> pleasure of making a contact with you using our club call: W1XYZ   We 
> had six kids ranging in age from 7 through 14 yrs old participating in 
> the contest.  The kids made most of the contacts and did most of the 
> logging until they crashed around 0300 local.  They picked back up 
> around 0700.
> 
> Unfortunately, due to youthful handwriting, a cranky laptop and old 
> technology, we lost several entries from the contest.  We have recovered 
> most of the "lost" information but a few still need a few holes filled. 
>  In most cases the only thing we're missing are the serial numbers from 
> the exchange.
> 
> Can you confirm our contact and the serial number you provided to us?
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
> This was the first real contest for XYZ and the kids set some 
> challenging goals for themselves:  WAS and a clean sweep.  They just 
> missed both because they never heard Nevada.
> 
> Hope to work you next year.
> 
> 73 de W1XYZ
> 
> 
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>From KOHB" <K0HB@ARRL.ORG  Sun Dec  1 14:52:04 2002
From: KOHB" <K0HB@ARRL.ORG (KOHB)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re:  Short contest calls.
References: <4.3.2.7.0.20021127143659.027b35d0@pop.pacific.net.hk> 
<5.2.0.9.2.20021130082928.00b103a0@mail.attbi.com> 
<3DE92156.ECDE024A@directvinternet.com> <3DE9AAC7.7040807@telia.com>
Message-ID: <002801c29949$37fec120$4311be3f@bigguy>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Erik Holm" <sm2ekm@telia.com>


> Talking about US calls, can you people explain this to me, it?s
> been puzzling me for years.
> There is a K6 guy operating from KH6, he doesn?t sign /KH6
> or KH6/ just his K6 and two letter suffix. I have asked him on
> the air and he says it?s perfectly right. How can it be?? Does
> not seem to follow international regulations which also are signed
> by the USA.

The "K6" suffix is assigned to the USA.  Hawaii is part of the USA.  There is no
international regulation which says Hawaii stations must sign "KH6".  In fact,
Hawaii was originally "K6" and California was "W6" only.  Within the borders of
a country there is no international regulation how the prefixes must be
allocated.


o?o  73, de Hans, K0HB
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>From KØHB" <K0HB@ARRL.ORG  Sun Dec  1 15:11:44 2002
From: KØHB" <K0HB@ARRL.ORG (KØHB)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Split Frequency in Contests?
References: <003001c29918$b1675800$c99901d4@jim>
Message-ID: <004e01c2994b$f7039800$4311be3f@bigguy>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Martin" <MM0BQI@thersgb.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:53 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Split Frequency in Contests?


> I think for the first time last weekend I heard contest stations working
> split.

This is a horrible practice, and we should not allow it to gain traction.
(We've even seen it in domestic tests, like ARRL Sweepstakes!)  It effectively
allows a single station to consume two frequencies (or more) in bands already
saturated with contest signals, and provides an underserved advantage to a
station which considers itself "rare".

ô¿ô  73, de Hans, K0HB
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  http://www.k0bsa.org





>From Jim Stevens" <k4ma@nc.rr.com  Sun Dec  1 15:15:01 2002
From: Jim Stevens" <k4ma@nc.rr.com (Jim Stevens)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Your thoughts on this one
References: <200212010454.gB14s7vh012439@contesting.com> 
<04dd01c298fb$1c3d7c40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <071901c2994c$6defee00$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com>

I also received a similar e-mail.  So I am reading with interest all of your
thoughts.

73, Jim K4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Your thoughts on this one


> Is this for real?  I mean to say, I have no doubts that the email was
> received by K4XS, but is there any way to verify the accuracy of the email
> itself?
>
> If it is on the level, I would probably confirm the QSO data... after the
> entry deadline for the contest has taken place.  I would also suggest that
> the log entry from the "XYZ" group be sent in with a note explaining what
> happened so that the stations worked would not be penalized due to missing
> information from the "XYZ" gang.
>
> I hate like heck to risk discouraging youthful operators, but asking for a
> "fill" post contest like this has to be against the spirit, if not the
> letter, of the contest rules.  I'm nothing but sympathetic, but, well, no
> one ever said life is fair and sometimes them's the breaks.
>
> And... the reason I question whether or not this is on the level... well,
> one of my favorite contests has a special award for "first time" entrants
> who are not "experienced" contesters, and there has been at least one time
> where a winner in this category was, allegedly, someone actually quite
> experienced who operated under a club call to hide his identity (and no, I
> don't know all the details, so it would be unfair for me to comment
> further).  Some people will go to any length to get that plaque or
> certificate; a feeling I can understand, having been burned more than a
few
> times on technicalities in one contest or another, but that don't make it
> right, either.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> What would the world be like if Gary Kildall hadn't gone hang gliding?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Your thoughts on this one
>
> I received the following email today.  What would you guys do?......Names
> and
> calls changed to protect the innocent.
>
> Subj:    Phone Sweepstakes
>
>
> Hi...
>
>    We need your help.
>
>     During the recent ARRL Phone Sweepstakes you made contact with the
> XYZ Radio Club, Jr located near Anytown.
>
>     XYZ is an amateur radio club just for kids and we had the
> pleasure of making a contact with you using our club call: W1XYZ   We
> had six kids ranging in age from 7 through 14 yrs old participating in
> the contest.  The kids made most of the contacts and did most of the
> logging until they crashed around 0300 local.  They picked back up
> around 0700.
>
> Unfortunately, due to youthful handwriting, a cranky laptop and old
> technology, we lost several entries from the contest.  We have recovered
> most of the "lost" information but a few still need a few holes filled.
>  In most cases the only thing we're missing are the serial numbers from
> the exchange.
>
> Can you confirm our contact and the serial number you provided to us?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> This was the first real contest for XYZ and the kids set some
> challenging goals for themselves:  WAS and a clean sweep.  They just
> missed both because they never heard Nevada.
>
> Hope to work you next year.
>
> 73 de W1XYZ
>
>
>
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