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Re: [CQ-Contest] How blatant can you get?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How blatant can you get?
From: e73m@e73m.com
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:15:03 -0500
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Randy,

CC members are not thousands of miles from here, few are here, just 
next country to Bosnia. They know what is going on in their neck of the 
woods. is do they care.

As I can see we do not need local group to address power cheaters, 
problem is global and we as competitors are looking up to CC members to 
make moves.
Again, what to do when some of CC members are cheaters too, how many 
excel sheets, pics and videos we need to present to Contest Committee?

I for one raised my voice and publicly addressed the problem with 
discriminating data about one of the members. Do we really have doubts 
that ES5TV is stacking OM 3500 with vents on the side just like some 
other guys whose pictures of the same can be seen on the web.

As I wrote in my story many of us are guilty by association, knowing 
that their buddies, friends, or fellow club members are running too much 
power but do not want to make "enemies".

I am not afraid of anyone and made my share of "enemies". I want to 
speak truth no matter how much it will cost me. Problem is that nobody 
listen.

Statements by CC like:"we can not enforce power limits in any country , 
it is up to their FCC/PTT" is just not acceptable to me. Downplaying the 
power issue with comments like 3Kw is only 3db above rule limit is also 
not acceptable. There are stations who use power limit to drive 
amplifier(s).


73 Danny E73M





On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:22:02 -0000, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> Why must the responsibility always be on the Contest Committee many
> thousands of miles away?  Who will be the first local group to stand 
> up to
> the cheaters in their midst both directly, face to face, and by 
> reporting
> them to the contest sponsors?  What are you afraid of?
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mats Strandberg
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:42 PM
>> To: e73m@e73m.com
>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How blatant can you get?
>>
>> This is what I intended to express...
>>
>> The power cheating is the big CHALLENGE of the present and future
>> contesting. WHO will be the first organizer deciding not to be an 
>> ostridge
>> concerning Power cheating?
>>
>> 73 de SM6LRR, Mats
>>
>>
>> 2011/10/13 <e73m@e73m.com>
>>
>> > Good question,
>> >
>> > How blatant can you get?
>> >
>> > Well, I will try again to bump the debate.
>> >
>> >  It is not fault of sellers but users who buy them and then drive 
>> them
>> > "responsibly".
>> > PVRC webinar from last Sunday, see at
>> > http://pvrc.org/webinar/cqww_2011.wmv , addressed issue of power 
>> and
>> > all I can get from those in charge of CQWW CC is :"be responsible 
>> and
>> fair".
>> > Another interesting thing was coined from K1DG and mentioned at
>> > webinar is SSSS (See Something, Say Something), related to 9/11 
>> events
>> > and translated into contesting.
>> >
>> > Does CC wants us to be alert for big amps and report it to them? 
>> If we
>> > need to police contesters with links to sites showing blatantly 
>> their
>> > big amps (even stacked one above another with air vents moved on 
>> the
>> > side) , then why we need CC?
>> >
>> >
>> > This coming CQ WW phone I will do only 100w and I invite CC to 
>> appoint
>> > observer to come and check my power during the contest. Hope some 
>> will
>> > follow my footsteps and say the same but I really doubt.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   73 Danny E73M,
>> > http://www.e73m.com
>> >
>> > How blatant can you get?
>> > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:53:08 -0700, David Gilbert wrote:
>> > > Check out this advertisement for a Henry 8K-Ultra from W7RF's
>> > > Radiodan website ( http://www.radiodan.com/Henry/hf_price98.htm 
>> )
>> > >
>> > > <quote>
>> > > Beautiful condition and ready for the contest season! You know 
>> those
>> > > BIG signals coming from Europe on 160 and 80? Want to know what 
>> they
>> > > use?
>> > > Yep, a Henry 8K.
>> > > And that's what you need for yourself to get through the noise.
>> > > Rated 5KW output (conservative)
>> > > Remote control with 20 foot cable
>> > > 240 VAC single phase
>> > > 30 day warranty
>> > > 8 presets
>> > > in service up until recently and ready for contest season!
>> > > Checked and tested by Henry factory less than 1 year ago 
>> </quote>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 73,
>> > > Dave   AB7E
>> > >
>> > >
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