Looks like this thread appears annually after each CQ WW CW Contest.
It reminds me exactly of a "pedestrian-driver" situation.
If the guy is a pedestrian, he would complain on "those fast and dangerous"
cars, but as soon as he becomes a car driver, his thinking changes towards
blaming "slow and irresponsible" pedestrians.
73 Yuri VE3DZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] unIDs
> If you don't know who they are, don't call them.
>
> If, as a S&P station, you don't want to wait for an ID, move on to work
> someone else.
>
> Some stations ID after every contact. Some after every other. Some every
> minute. Some less often. This is nothing new; this goes back as far as I
> can recall, and that goes back to Field Day 1972.
>
> Unless you are going to mandate in the rules a minimum time to ID over &
> above what is legally required by the country of license for the station,
> there's not much that can be done about it.
>
> 73
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Smith
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:30 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] unIDs
>
> (a term from the broadcast DX world used to refer to stations you hear
> that
> are probably good DX but can't be identified. Of course, the FCC
> broadcasting regulations only require stations to give their callsigns
> once
> an hour, and while the Communications Act doesn't require it, Murphy's Law
> requires the signal fade during the identification announcement...)
>
>
> Unfortunately there were far too many unIDs in this weekend's CQ WW CW.
> You
> don't have to ID after *every* QSO#, but having to wait 60-120 seconds
> for an ID is simply not acceptable.## Being the S&P side of a QSO does
> not
> constitute permission for the run side to waste my time; isn't that kinda
> the ham radio equivalent of saving time in a Formula 1 race by having your
> crew barricade the track so you can refuel in your lane & don't have to
> enter the pits? So what if it slows down the other competitors?, it's
> faster for ME.
>
> After years of declining dupe rates, (due to computer logging, resulting
> in
> much faster & more accurate dupe checking) I sense the dupe total is
> climbing again. One major Caribbean DXpedition worked me three times on
> the
> same band -- because they weren't IDing with reasonable frequency & I
> wasn't sure they weren't a needed mult. A couple of dozen other stations
> also ended up getting duped. (I find it interesting to note that there is
> not a single JA or VE station among the offenders) There are also at
> least
> three stations that are going to get a N.I.L., as the S&P rates were too
> high to justify sitting around 1-3 minutes waiting for an ID from someone
> who probably wasn't a mult.
>
>
> It's my impression this problem was a LOT worse in the CW contest than it
> was on phone last month.
>
> --
>
> Doug Smith W9WI
> Pleasant View, TN EM66
>
> # although it would be nice, and many of the best operators were doing so.
> ## unless it's taking that long to complete a single QSO, which DOES
> occasionally happen.
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