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Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote operating software - for NCJ column

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote operating software - for NCJ column
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 16:34:03 -0500
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Gee Paul, and to think I almost missed this because, for the last 5 years, I've had my e-mail software send your e-mails straight to the trash-bin.  As I recall, that was in reaction to other specific, personally-nasty comments in the past.

To be clear, I was responding om CQ-Contest to several people who expressed specific interest in remote operating, while nobody mentioned call history files in responding my inquiry.  If a similar number had suggested I take on call history files, he probably would have been gratified if I responded to them as well.  The growing number of people using remotely- controlled stations, to judge from  3830scores.com, suggests that more and more of us, living in circumstances that don't permit decent antennas, are resorting to remote control to keep scratching the contesting itch.  As for needing the Internet to implement remote operation, all I can say is "horrors!"

I don't understand what particular bone Paul has to pick with me, but he doesn't seem to be able to do so without being snarky, so back to the trash-bin.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 1/16/2022 12:37 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
On 16/01/2022 15:38, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:

From the number of comments I've received, both on the reflector and off, it appears that a prime subject these days is remote operation.

It appears that N4ZR has little or no interest in using software to modernize contest exchanges, even though he specifically asked for comments on call history files.  The fact that remote operation is a hot topic is no reason to disregard other aspects of contesting software.  As confirmation of his intent, N4ZR has unilaterally changed the subject of this thread from "Software Column in NCJ - Need Ideas"  to  "Remote operating software - for NCJ column"

How relevant is remote contesting to NCJ?  After all, the software issues relate to station control and signal relay over wide-area networks, to internet dependence, and to internet latency - in short, to wired communications.  Internet-based apps can and do complement ham-band contesting, but when contest QSOs cannot exist without being hosted on the internet it marks them out as something completely different from person-to-person, RF-all-the-way QSOs.

There has been some negative comment on this thread about remote stations for hire (subscriber remote operation).   It seems to me that once remote contesting is accepted on exactly the same terms as hands-on contesting, it's hypocritical to complain about remote stations for hire.  No one complains about hands-on stations for hire in exotic DX locations.

Remote contesting is here to stay, but to regard it as no different from hands-on contesting is both misguided and foolish. Let remote contesters compete only with one another.

73,
Paul EI5DI



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