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Re: [CQ-Contest] DXCC cheating using out-of-country remotes

To: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] DXCC cheating using out-of-country remotes
From: John Geiger via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: John Geiger <wr6885@proton.me>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 22:49:12 +0000
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How could this be policed?  

Some violations might be obvious, like working a 10,000 miles 160m QSO at noon 
local time.  But most of the the time the ARRL (or other awards organization) 
is going to be working with dates, times, and frequencies from the past.  How 
could they know that the path wasn't open on 10m at that time between EU and 
KP5, given some of the freaks of propagation.

73 John AF5CC




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On Tuesday, January 20th, 2026 at 4:41 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com> 
wrote:

> 
> 
> and illegal.
> 
> On 1/20/2026 9:12 AM, Mike N2GC via CQ-Contest wrote:
> 
> > They are only cheating themselves. It would be a different story if it was 
> > during a contest though.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Mike N2GC
> > 
> > > On Jan 20, 2026, at 11:06 AM, Barry W2UP w2up.co@gmail.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm sure this isn't a new problem, but it's pretty obvious with the 
> > > current
> > > KP5 operation.
> > > 
> > > Listening to the pileups, I've heard a number of European callsigns 
> > > calling
> > > the KP5 on the high bands during the USA evening, with loud signals here 
> > > in
> > > Colorado, when the band is not open to Europe. Obviously they are using
> > > remotes in N. America.
> > > 
> > > Clearly this destroys the integrity of the DXCC program. Does anyone
> > > care? Is anything being done to address it?
> > > 
> > > Barry W2UP
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