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Re: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...

To: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>, <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...
From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Tom Rauch <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:42:05 -0500
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Ed,

Wasn't that 15 watts from a MOBILE antenna on 75 meters at 1/2 mile
distance? I seem to recall reading something like that.

73, Tom W8JI

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
To: <rfi@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...


The AMRAD filing documented interference to a HomePlug BPL system in
Potomac, MD.  15 watts brought the system down.

73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Lab
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111
Tel: 860-594-0318
Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org
Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis



> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfi-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of Michael Tope
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:33 PM
> To: k1ttt@arrl.net; rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...
>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> My understanding of the Home Plug standard was that it notched the ham
> bands by 30dB (after prodding by ARRL), so there may actually be some
> truth to the first part of the citation. In any case, it was
> the second
> paragraph
> of the citation that I was referring to:
>
> >"[Interference] just doesn't exist," Birnbaum said. "They
> based a lot of
> > their assumptions on outdated noise flow analysis."
>
> "Outdated noise flow analysis"  - what the hell is that??
> Sure sounds like
> bullsh#% to me :):)
>
> BTW, I am pretty sure the homeplug hardware does their
> hamband notching
> in the digital backend of the receiver, so it most likely
> that it has the
> same
> susceptibility to RF overload from nearby transmitters as the
> un-notched
> systems (e.g. you'll be able to crash it with a 50 watt mobile).
>
> 73 de Mike, W4EF.........................
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <k1ttt@arrl.net>
> To: <rfi@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...
>
>
> > > Here is my favorite quote, Jason:
> > >>But Current Technologies LLC, which offers BPL service in
> the Cincinnati
> > > and Rockville, >Md., areas, can't find interference caused by its
> system,
> > > said Jay Birnbaum, the company's >vice president and
> general counsel.
> > > Current Technologies uses a technology standard >called HomePlug,
> designed
> > > to not interfere with other radio signals.
> > >
> >
> > as i understand the homeplug stuff it adapts the channels
> it uses to avoid
> > interference to itself.  in doing so it would avoid
> frequencies being used
> > locally by other services.... being used to transmit that
> is.  so if you
> > are listening on a frequency it can't avoid interfering
> with you unless
> > you are listening to something else that is strong enough
> to interfer with
> > the homeplug communications.
> >
> >
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