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Re: [RFI] ARRL to FCC..

To: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] ARRL to FCC..
From: David Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Reply-to: dave@nk7z.net
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 06:47:24 -0700
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HI,

Thanks for the help in understanding this one!
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On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 06:45 -0500, Kim Elmore wrote:
> You must clearly understand what Ward was told. It punts to "no
> additional funding for PROACTIVE RFI enforcement," NOT "no funds for
> RFI enforcement."  The FCC has finding only for reactive RFI
> enforcement, not proactive RFI enforcement. Do the have authority?
> Yes. Do they have the ability to exercise it in a proactive manner?
> No. 
> 
> 
> Not the FCC's fault, not the Senate and not the White House: turn to
> the House for a solution. What's the solution? Funding and spending
> authority. 
> 
> 
> Kim N5OP
> 
> "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long
> as the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith
> 
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 0:13, David Cole <dave@nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Hi Ward,
> > 
> > Nicely put!  Interestingly though that does not jive with what is
> > happening...  We are seeing enforcement take place, which confuses
> > me
> > after reading your take on the 2012 meeting with involved Laura
> > Smith.
> > 
> > I have dealt with Laura, and found her nothing but helpful, and she
> > has
> > performed enforcement tasks, based on valid data provided to her.
> >  This
> > is at odds with the interpretation of the 2012 meeting, which sounds
> > like no enforcement will happen at all...  Any idea where the
> > disconnect
> > on this is happening?  What am I missing?
> > 
> > I do fully agree with your assessment of having major broadcasters,
> > or
> > cell vendors involved, and in your suggestion to document, document,
> > document!
> > 
> > It really is too bad these RFI generating devices don't spray into
> > the
> > cell phone spectrum a bit. :)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Support better RFI practices, please sign this petition:
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> > 
> > http://wh.gov/lpz5Y
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 22:25 -0500, Ward Silver wrote:
> > > > I really don't care too much how the FCC accomplishes it's job,
> > > > as 
> > > long as it is accomplishing it's jobs correctly.
> > > 
> > > At the FCC Forum at Pacificon a couple of years ago (2012, I
> > > think) FCC 
> > > Enforcement Counsel Laura Smith was asked directly and
> > > specifically 
> > > about problems caused by RFI from consumer devices.  In a
> > > nutshell, she 
> > > replied that the FCC would take enforcement action when Congress 
> > > directed the FCC to do so and not before.  In the language of the 
> > > Executive Branch, that means when Congress creates spending
> > > authority 
> > > for them to do so. That responsibility lies in House of
> > > Representatives 
> > > and they are not asking the FCC to impede commerce (i.e.
> > > inconvenience 
> > > their campaign donors) in order to respond to complaints from ham
> > > radio 
> > > operators.
> > > 
> > > It is possible that if the broadcasters and mobile networking
> > > companies 
> > > turn up the heat on *both* the FCC and the House, with support
> > > from the 
> > > hams, there might be some action taken.  Until then, or there is
> > > some 
> > > tragedy or security problem caused by RFI from a non-compliant
> > > device, 
> > > petitioning (or blaming) the White House is pretty much
> > > pointless.  You 
> > > need to patiently explain to your Congressional Representative
> > > (not your 
> > > senator) what the problem is and hope they hear the same message
> > > from 
> > > the AM broadcasters and local mobile phone provider lobbyists
> > > cutting 
> > > them checks.
> > > 
> > > Until then, I think it behooves us to document, document, document
> > > so 
> > > that when we have an opportunity to influence the political
> > > process we 
> > > have the facts, if not the money, to do so.
> > > 
> > > 73, Ward N0AX
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