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Re: [RTTY] AFSK to FSK converter

To: RTTY Reflector <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] AFSK to FSK converter
From: Kok Chen <chen@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:33:30 -0700
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Frank wrote:

> Now anyone want to admit that this entire thread was an April fools joke?
> 
> AFSK to FSK converter indeed!

Scoff as much as you like, but K4DSP originally had the same problem that Bill 
describes.  He simply wanted some way to use a software modem with older rigs.  
 And indeed, he had used an old discarded TU for just such a converter.

You can see him describe it right on this very reflector:

http://lists.contesting.com/_rtty/2005-03/msg00035.html

The FSKit makes use of a $2 programmable Atmel AVR chip instead of an old 
clunky TU that few people have in their junk boxes anymore.   

Engineers design schemes to solve other people's problems.  Good engineers 
design schemes before others even know they need the solution (think Edwin 
Armstrong).  Over time, a regenerator like the FSKit might become the best 
solution out there for keying an FSK transmitter.

Also for a couple of bucks, an Exar XR-2211 outperforms an ST-6, but that is 
neither here nor there since for this purpose, the demodulator only needs to 
decode signals that has SNR in excess of 60 dB (the transmit AFSK tones from a 
sound card).  Time moves on, and a tiny SOIC chip outperforms a rack full of 
tubes.

With an SDR tarnsmitter that starts with in-phase and quadrature baseband 
signals, you don't really need direct keyed FSK anymore since the distinction 
between FSK and AFSK pretty much melts away (the same can be said of the old 
keyed AFSK rigs, such as the FT-1000D; there is no difference between using 
AFSK and FSK in those rigs, either).

There is another style of FSK-AFSK conversion too, but sort of in reverse.  TUs 
such as the ST-8000 and Timewave DSP-599-zx support a FSK Regenerator mode that 
turns the demodulated RTTY pulses from the receiver back into a 2215/2295 AFSK 
tone pair.

Some of us used to depend on that flavor of regeneration because HAL and 
Timewave did not support Mac OS.  We simply fed the regenerated AFSK tone pair 
into some TNC (e.g., KAM Plus) that can run under Mac OS.  The regenerated tone 
pair again has very high SNR and the second (inferior) TU does not throw any 
extra error.  The regenerated tones includes the errors from the front end 
(superior) TU, and the entire TU chain functions as if it is just the superior 
TU running by itself.

That second flavor of FSK regeneration is also exactly the way you can receive 
with an ST-8000 in the modern word.  You turn on the ST-8000 regenerator and 
feed the regenerated tones into the sound card of a modern modem.  Not that you 
would want to, since a whole bunch software modems today wipe the floor with 
the ST-8000 if you have set a decent sound card up properly.  For transmitting? 
-- well, we are back at Bill's dilemma -- how to key the FSK input of a 
transmitter from a sound card based software modem.

73
Chen, W7AY




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