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Re: [RTTY] RM-11708 Vision of the future

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] RM-11708 Vision of the future
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:37:44 -0400
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I'm sick and tired of those who claim it is necessary to kill the
patient in order to save it.  If ARRL truly wanted to prevent digital
modes greater than 2800 Hz in the Cw/RTTY bands and still allow for
"fast" data, all they needed to to was ask the FCC to allow RTTY and
Data where other wideband modes (phone and data) are already permitted
and where those modes are effectively limited to 3 KHz for a single
channel or 6 KHz for multiplexed modes and traditional AM.  That
coupled with a 500 Hz limit in the narrow band segments (traditional
CW and RTTY) would have *completely solved the problem* without any
chance of increased interference to the 99%+ of operators who use
traditional narrow band modes.

Anyone who claims 2.8 KHz data is a "necessary update" has their head
stuck so far up a dark and smelly orifice that they have no hope of
ever seeing sunlight.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/14/2014 12:53 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
I'm pretty sick of this doom and gloom crap about necessary updates to
our massively outdated regulations.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Terry <ab5k@hotmail.com> wrote:
Its currently the year 2020.



In mid year 2014 the FCC approved RM-11708 which de-regulated the CW/RTTY
bands allowing unspecified digital wide bandwidth codes in the current
CW/RTTY band segments.   For a while the old rules were adhered to more or
less on  a gentleman's agreement but more and more questionable signals came
up taking over the ham bands.



In 2016, a radio manufacture out of China came out with a $100 dollar all
digital radio that features built in digital voice, CW and data.   This
radio operates on the de-regulated RM-11708 (old CW/RTTY) amateur band
segments.   The digital encoding algorithms in the radio can be setup in
software effectively making it a encrypted radio.  The radio has a built in
modem allowing a "fast" 9600 baud connection to the Internet.  The few
remaining digital hams call the 9600 modem feature PACTOR 8.  Originally the
sail boat crowd latched onto the new radios but once the word got out that
they are undetectable, non-hams are purchasing them like wildfire.



The RM-11708 de-regulated parts of the bands are total chaos and the FCC has
given up on any enforcement.  The last CW and RTTY contests were in 2018.
The ARRL has a small staff of 8 people which only serves the SSB operators
and has just declared bankruptcy.



David Sumner retired from the ARRL one month after the release of RM-11708
and now lives on a sailboat in Aruba.   He used to send  beautiful pictures
of the Aruba sunset with a drink in his hand enjoying the tropical paradise
but with the chaos on the digital portions of the ham bands nothing gets
through.



I sure miss those pictures.



...



Everyone have a good contest and enjoy it while we can





73 Terry   AB5K

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