Yes, different hearing will cause one to "tune in" a signal slightly 
different. Plus the absolute frequency as displayed can be +/- 50 Hz with 
most radios.   Thus if one chooses to set the radio, such their display is a 
specific number, there's no assurance the radio is absolutely on that 
frequency.  If you challenge this point, try the ARRL Frequency Measuring 
test that takes place later this year.
 I find it MUCH easier to operate SPLIT in a round table QSO.  Set the 
frequency of one VFO where you think it should be, press the =  to make VFO 
A = VFO B and just tune to station to station as your ears so choose.  I 
find that much easier than operating with the RIT function, which 
operationally on most radios is more of a nuisance.  Plus one likely forgets 
it is ON and thus on the next QSO or NET you are likely "reported off 
frequency".
 Just remember in a NET, by normal practice, the net control establishes the 
net frequency.  Usually it is net frequency +/- QRM and there is no 
assurance that it will be on an absolute frequency with the number ending in 
several 00000's.
73
Bob, K4TAX
 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "k6jek" <k6jek@comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology
 They don't complain. They just advise. BTW, Jon, you're 50 Hz high or 
whatever.  When we aren't doing a round table but just jumping in, I know 
it's annoying to be pushing the RIT whenever party X transmits. And how 
about when X is 50 up and Y is 50 down?
 In addition to using the latest greatest stuff, I like to see just how 
good I can get the old stuff to work without inappropriate modifications. 
The 100V didn't start out sounding better than anything else on the air. I 
had to wrestle it into submission.
 Being actually on frequency is part of getting high performance out of old 
gear. How can you argue that?
Jon
 PS: I would venture that my buddies aren't the simpletons you seem to 
think they are.
On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
 
Jon,
If I had buddies who got annoyed with me being 20 or 30 Hz off frequency,
I'd look for some new buddies.
Those are probably the same buddies that pray to their SWR bridge.
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of k6jek
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:02 AM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology
 I know. As an aficionado of vintage equipment I agree in spirt. But on 
SSB
it really is delightful to talk with people who are actually on 
frequency, a
rarity with vintage gear but the norm now with new equipment. People just
 sound so much more human when their speech isn't shifted 30 Hz or 20 or 
even
10.
I have a Corsair (I) and have not considered replacing the PTO with a DDS
 unit but might just find a way to get a better read of my actual 
frequency.
Shouldn't be hard. That way I can talk with my buddies on their Flex 
Radios
(*), ICOM 7600's and such without annoying them while still enjoying my 
fine
old stuff.
Jon, K6JEK
 * I have all that modern stuff too, an SDR, OMNI VII etc. I just don't 
like
it much. Heck, I think my favorites are the tube pieces from '50's.
On Feb 22, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
 
I remember when digital frequency readouts (the kind using an electronic
  counter, not the kind on a R-390) started appearing on ham gear. Most 
people
(myself included) just had to have it. We never needed it before. There 
were
easy enough reliable methods to make sure we stayed inside our band (or
sub-band) limits, but for some reason it seemed like a digital display of
our frequency became a necessity.
 
DE N6KB
On 2/22/2014 11:14 AM, Mike Bryce wrote:
 
I guess it was a year ago I put in a DDS replacement for the PTO. Rock
 
 
 
solid. Dual VFOs, speed sensitive tuning, all kinds of goodies.
 
I took it out and the analog PTO back in.
Yep, it didn't have the same feel. It (the DDS) made all kinds of noise
 
 
 
when no antenna was connected.
 
Sometimes, and this was one of them, older really is better
Mike, WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems
The Heathkit Shop
http://www.theheathkitshop.com/
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